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Re: The "Fuck Jesus" Mentality [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I actually agree with Jesus on most of those.  He just saw the matrix a few years before the movie came out. :satansmoking:


is dat cuz of Easter?

follow that white rabbit mmaaaan haha


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Re: The "Fuck Jesus" Mentality [Re: starsky7]
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starsky7 said:
Hail Thor.


Old but not out.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: The "Fuck Jesus" Mentality [Re: Icelander]
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I felt this was relevant for anyone that's bored.


Question: "What is the meaning of the cross?"

Answer: Simply put, the meaning of the cross is death. In ancient times (i.e., from about the 6th century BC until the 4th century AD), the cross was an instrument of death by the most torturous and painful of ways. Crucifixion was an ancient form of execution in which a person was either tied or nailed to a wooden cross and left to hang until dead. Death would be slow and excruciatingly painful; in fact, the word excruciating literally means “out of crucifying.” However, because of Christ and His death on the cross, the meaning of the cross today is completely different.

In Christianity, the cross is the intersection of God’s love and His justice. Jesus Christ is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world (John 1:29). The reference to Jesus as the Lamb of God points back to the institution of the Jewish Passover in Exodus 12. The Israelites were commanded to sacrifice an unblemished lamb and smear the blood of that lamb on the doorposts of their homes. The blood would be the sign for the Angel of Death to “pass over” that house, leaving those covered by blood in safety. When Jesus came to John to the baptized, John recognized Him and cried, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!” (John 1:29), thereby identifying Him and God’s plan for Him to be sacrificed for sin.

One might ask why Jesus had to die in the first place. This is the over-arching message of the Bible—the story of redemption. God created the heavens and the earth, and He created man and woman in His image and placed them in the Garden of Eden to be His stewards on the earth. However, due to the temptations of Satan (the serpent), Adam and Eve sinned and fell from God’s grace. Furthermore, they have passed the curse of sin on to their children so that everyone inherits their sin and guilt. God the Father sent his one and only Son into the world to take on human flesh and to be the Savior of His people. Born of a virgin, Jesus avoided the curse of the fall that infects all other human beings. As the sinless Son of God, He could provide the unblemished sacrifice that God requires. God’s justice demanded judgment and punishment for sin; God’s love moved Him to send His one and only Son to be the propitiation for sin.

Because of Jesus’ atoning sacrifice on the cross, those who place their faith and trust in Him alone for salvation are guaranteed eternal life (John 3:16). However, Jesus called His followers to take up their cross and follow Him (Matthew 16:24). This concept of “cross-bearing” today has lost much of its original meaning. Typically, we use “cross-bearing” to denote an inconvenient or bothersome circumstance (e.g., “my troubled teen is my cross to bear”). However, we must keep in mind that Jesus is calling His disciples to engage in radical self-denial. Remember, the cross meant only one thing to a 1st-century person—death. “Whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it” (Matthew 16:25). Galatians reiterates this theme of death of the sinful self and rising to walk in new life through Christ: “I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me” (Galatians 2:20).

Now, those who live in the 21st century, particularly in North America and Europe, are probably not going to face severe persecution for being a Christian in our lifetimes. Yet there are places in the world where Christians are being persecuted, even to the point of death, for their faith. They know what it means to carry their cross and follow Jesus. For the rest of us our job is to remain faithful to Christ. We may never be called upon to give the ultimate sacrifice, but we must be willing to do so out of love for the One who saved us and gave His life for us.

Recommended Resources: Jesus: The Greatest Life of All by Charles Swindoll and Logos Bible Softwa


Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/meaning-of-the-cross.html#ixzz3DvWmjSTP


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Re: The "Fuck Jesus" Mentality [Re: Couperj] * 1
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You can interpret the bible however you would like, but to say that it's stories and teachings are irrelevant seems a bit ignorant. Again, the overall message is one of love and peace and anyone that is using the bible in any other manner is using it out of context.

Edited and doctored or not that book was law for a very long time. As messed up as some of those things are it still makes for an interesting story. Obviously it's given rise to an immense amount of debate and controversy.


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Re: The "Fuck Jesus" Mentality [Re: Couperj]
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thank YOu!!^

why cant people just appreciate the story and art of Christianity and other religions; instead of saying you cant tolerant anything that has to do with it because people used it out of context for sinister means.

seems irrational.


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Re: The "Fuck Jesus" Mentality [Re: Couperj]
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Couperj said:
You can interpret the bible however you would like, but to say that it's stories and teachings are irrelevant seems a bit ignorant. Again, the overall message is one of love and peace and anyone that is using the bible in any other manner is using it out of context.

Edited and doctored or not that book was law for a very long time. As messed up as some of those things are it still makes for an interesting story. Obviously it's given rise to an immense amount of debate and controversy.


Might seem a bit ignorant, if you actually swim deep in those particular waters and have a bunch of emotional investment in it being true/relevant/meaningful. I for one find it isn't.

It leans heavily towards restriction, shaming, inducing guilt, moralizing, sexual repression, VERY monotonous approach to mating (all one on one heterosexual marriage, no group sex no menage a trois stuff nothing else allowed, it's all our way or the highway) and generally suffering from the same type of mediocrity as the other of the 2 books of its kind, the Torah and the Qur'an. They seem to be written by boring people for boring people. I've had my fill in high school, of similar books allegedly worth studying, whose boredom level was through the fucking roof and actual life relevance minimal. One impression I got from things divinely inspired (like insights from trips) is that boring they are not. On the contrary.

The character Jesus, if he existed in a shape anywhere near that described in the Bible (which I for one highly doubt) at the very least failed to pass on his teachings in well designed way, concise and engaging and attractive. He might have been a chill hippie who helped people chill out as well (while he was present) but IMO he didn't really transmit a clear method of reaching the same states or results. Not all who are master of a skill can also teach it well, especially through a book, without direct contact.


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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16

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Re: The [Re: Spacerific]
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well, If there's one person in the world that I'd choose to be my trip sitter it would definitely be jesus :lol:

I mean, what could possibly go wrong when jesus is in the room?:stoned:
:jesus:


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Edited by SleepyE (09/21/14 03:59 AM)

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Re: The "Fuck Jesus" Mentality [Re: SleepyE]
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BAHAHAHHA


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Re: The [Re: SleepyE]
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SleepyE said:
well, If there's one person in the world that I'd choose to be my trip sitter it would definitely be jesus :lol:

I mean, what could possibly go wrong when jesus is in the room?:stoned:
:jesus:


You could be crucified.  He wasn't able to do anything about that.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The [Re: Icelander]
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I think his crucifixion was just him showing off.:yesnod:

wanted everyone to know he's one hard mothafucker.

his crucifixion was probably intentional self-sacrifice. :shrug::strokebeard:


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Re: The [Re: SleepyE]
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Well I'm really glad to know what you think. :lol:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The [Re: Icelander]
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:ancientaliens:


jesus was an alien:hotidea:


:tmckenna:

or a mushroom..




Fuck maybe youre jesus


Or maybe Criss Angel found a time machine and went back to over 2000 years ago, to stage the whole miracle ordeal for his season finale.
The videotape was lost on the way back home obviously.

MIIIINNNNNDD FREAK. 


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Edited by SleepyE (09/22/14 03:56 AM)

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Re: The [Re: SleepyE]
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Yes, I've been outed. :blush:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: The [Re: presentusthefuture] * 1
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:satansmoking:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The [Re: Icelander] * 1
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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: The [Re: CosmicJoke]
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:lol:


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Re: The [Re: SleepyE]
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I really want to make that into a t-shirt and wear that when a jehovah comes to my door.

PS. Fuck jesus

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Re: The [Re: Uzziel]
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:mad2::god2:


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Re: The [Re: SleepyE]
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SleepyE said:
:ancientaliens:


jesus was an alien:hotidea:


:tmckenna:

or a mushroom..




Fuck maybe youre jesus


Or maybe Criss Angel found a time machine and went back to over 2000 years ago, to stage the whole miracle ordeal for his season finale.
The videotape was lost on the way back home obviously.

MIIIINNNNNDD FREAK. 



Nice.


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