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    #1453491 - 04/12/03 07:39 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for your support, and your kind words. According to Susan Zannos in 'Human Types: Essence and the Enneagram,' I am a 'King of Hearts,' a personality type coming from the Intellectual Part of the Emotional Center, in the Gurdjieffian system. So, I really can't claim any credit for any heart-mind that passes through my being. On the other hand...there are those qualities that come out when I'm not being a "thoughtful welcome addition to the Shroomery," the self-righteousness, an occasional dash of pomposity, impatience with dopey adolescent dopers...  :smile:

Some people just can't take a compliment.  Thanks nevertheless! 


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    #1453531 - 04/12/03 08:01 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Aldous Huxley referred to psychedelics as "Moksha Medicine," the medicine of liberation. Drugs may mean medicines, not mere inebriants, particularly consciousness-dispersing or diminishing substances like opiates and alcohol. Many artistic representations of Buddhas, including one of my own - a Yab-Yum (Female Prajna astride Male Compassion) - has a medicine bowl in his hands.

The German-born Tibetan Buddhist Lama, Anagarika Govinda (who wrote 'Foundations of Tibetan Mysticism') once said that after years of meditating for up to 10 hours a day, and possessing the highest degree in his field (Lama), he never Really understood until he took LSD. He wrote a preface to Leary et als. 'The Psychedelic Experience.'


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Re: Christians? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #1455157 - 04/13/03 05:39 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting stuff about Anagarika Govinda. I was not aware of it. Even though I'm aware Leary's 'Psychedelic Experience', I've not yet read it. I'm glad you mentioned it cos I'm going to order it ASAP.

As for drugs, I'm certainly aware that the definition goes beyond mere intoxicants, but my understanding of Buddhist precepts is that only intoxicanting drugs are off-limits. Maybe that's just my interpretation, but hey - my interpretation allows one to trip and smoke weed cos those substances don't cause one to stray from the path to enlightenment.

For the record - i agree with McKenna that TV should be classified as a drug - talk about concsiousness dispersing.

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