Enlil said:

Deep state

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The Ecstatic said:

Enlil said:

Deep state

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Call it whatever you want, but dude can’t figure out why 4 years of unrestricted right wing agenda, a conservative Supreme Court, a new even lower bar for Democrats, and a justification to hold up the GOP as unwitting hostages of populism is something the ruling class would want.


Obviously Clinton winning would have been better for the average American, but what’s her agenda look like? Especially without the Democratic supermajority Obama had. How many more Americans get disenchanted with the system?

With the spectacle of Trump, now they can hit the reset button and breathe a sigh of relief and say that we dodged fascism by electing one of the most right wing democrats of the last 50 years.

People are cheering on Biden’s corporate and Warhawk cabinet picks simply because they aren’t his immediate family members. It’s pathetic.

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Are you referring to me?  I was simply replying to chop as he said it was the deep state that was responsible for the alleged coup on trump.  I get that the MIC and corporatism will flourish regardless of which lackey is in the WH.

chopstick said:

Since this thread is apparently still going strong, here's your daily reminder that the Democratic so-called "left" openly engaged in massive election fraud to win the 2020 election:

There are landslides and then there are landslides. There are lopsided votes and then there are lopsided votes. There are egregious examples of vote manipulation and then there are really egregious examples of vote manipulation. What surfaced during hearings in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, on November 25, 2020, may set the standard for electoral outrageousness. An expert testifying to the Pennsylvania Senate flagged a batch of ballots that recorded some 570,000 votes for Joe Biden and only 3,200 for Donald Trump.

Yes, you read that correctly. That would equate to Joe Biden bagging 99.4 percent of that enormous chunk of votes. That one batch alone would have flipped the state to Biden.

This bombshell was dropped last Wednesday at the Wyndham Hotel in Gettysburg. The November 25 hearings, which began at 12:30 p.m. and ran for nearly four hours, were convened at the request of Sen. Doug Mastriano (R-Adams, Cumberland, Franklin, and York counties). It was sponsored by the Senate Majority Policy Committee, chaired by Sen. David Argall (R-Berks/Schuylkill). Mastriano has called what happened “unacceptable,” and has called for the resignation of Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar.

This particular gem was provided by Ret. Col. Phil Waldren, a former combat officer with a background in Army information and electronic warfare. Waldren, who testified along with Rudy Giuliani’s team, brought to the hearing his considerable expertise in analysis of election-data fraud. After Waldren presented his material, the chair opened the floor for questions. Rudy Giuliani went first, asking Waldren to clarify what his analytics team means when they talk about “spike anomalies” in voting patterns. These, as Waldren defines them, are “events where a numerical amount of votes are processed in a time period that is not feasible or mechanically possible under normal circumstances.”


https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-bombshell-biden-99-4-vs-trump-0-6/



The election fraud is so incredibly blatant that it could make one's sanity literally melt. I guess they think they will get away with it because they have 99% of the media, the deep state, the intelligence community, and social media platforms actively covering it all up on their behalf, engaging in a censorship spree of epic proportions, on top of many millions of individuals who would rather plunge their heads into the sand than have to admit to the truth.. Like many of you on this forum.

Unfortunately for them, though, there are many millions more who will know the truth, and see this sham election for what it was.


It just blows my mind that the Left would rather tear the country to shreds, steal the election and literally destroy the republic rather than see Trump elected to a second term. They are psychopaths. It's rather painful to watch them self-combust the country like this.


But I'm not surprised really, not after how they Lied about Trump being boosted by "Russiagate" in 2016 and then attempted to impeach Trump for something which facts have since proven which Joe Biden was 100% guilty of (getting that prosecutor fired in Ukraine), and for which, in a fair and just world would have automatically disqualified him from the 2020 election. But that's what happens when you have the deep state on your side... you get to get away with whatever you want, while twisting and distorting reality to fit any Lie you can imagine.


What an incredibly sad state of affairs.

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Brian Jones said:

Can anyone come up with a rational (yeah I know) explanation for what Trump's motivations are for these actions. Is he stalling for time while he psychologically digests losing? Is he honing his fund raising skills, which have been quite impressive since the election, but will that continue after the last nail is in the election coffin? I'm sure he would love to see his followers pay off his personal debts, which I assume is possible if he says he's taking donations for some loosely defined cause.

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Enlil said:

Trump won the primary and the election because of the voters.  Trump lost this election because of the voters.  If you think that anyone but the voters decide these things, you're in conspiracy territory.

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shivas.wisdom said:

Video evidence? Why have you suddenly switched to talking about video evidence when this was the evidence you reposted, and then admitted you never read. It's text - not video.

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shivas.wisdom said:

You didn't personally read the touted evidence; you assumed those who criticized/dismissed the text didn't actually read it; you shifted the onus from needing to prove a claim for it to be valid, to needing to disprove a claim for it to be invalid. Any other significant lapses in your critical thinking process?

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shivas.wisdom said:

You've had no problem analysing minutiae when it involves defending Assad - but can't be bothered to read anything when it involves possible fraud in your presidential election? Your priorities really seem misplaced.

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The Ecstatic said:

And if Trump’s interests were unacceptable to the ruling class they would’ve spent billions of dollars to convince voters otherwise.

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Brian Jones said:

Can anyone come up with a rational (yeah I know) explanation for what Trump's motivations are for these actions. Is he stalling for time while he psychologically digests losing? Is he honing his fund raising skills, which have been quite impressive since the election, but will that continue after the last nail is in the election coffin? I'm sure he would love to see his followers pay off his personal debts, which I assume is possible if he says he's taking donations for some loosely defined cause.

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bodhisatta said:

The deep state is just people in the deep south states
Uninformed voters being mislead

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

shivas.wisdom said:

You didn't personally read the touted evidence; you assumed those who criticized/dismissed the text didn't actually read it; you shifted the onus from needing to prove a claim for it to be valid, to needing to disprove a claim for it to be invalid. Any other significant lapses in your critical thinking process?

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Did you watch those videos, or are you brushing this off because the mainstream media told you to?

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Yes, I've done very little research on the election fraud, and I think I've made it VERY clear that I have no idea whether it occurred or not.  My point hasn't been to argue if it occurred or not, my point has been that it appears many people here have an opinion without knowing all the facts

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

The Ecstatic said:

And if Trump’s interests were unacceptable to the ruling class they would’ve spent billions of dollars to convince voters otherwise.

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You were jerking off on this forum for months about how Trump won your vote in 2020 because he was the anti-establishment candidate. No one here is going to forget that.

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

bodhisatta said:

The deep state is just people in the deep south states
Uninformed voters being mislead

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shivas.wisdom said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Did you watch those videos, or are you brushing this off because the mainstream media told you to?

Yes, I've done very little research on the election fraud, and I think I've made it VERY clear that I have no idea whether it occurred or not.  My point hasn't been to argue if it occurred or not, my point has been that it appears many people here have an opinion without knowing all the facts

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Are you accusing me of brushing off the touted evidence now? Buddy that's what you did - you admitted you haven't read any of it - but don't assume everyone else here shares your tendency. I didn't have to watch hours of Giuliani talking in a hotel conference room, because I looked into the court cases directly.

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