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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: thewanderer25]
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thewanderer25 said:
Seriously she may make laws like if a guy offends a girl he can get arrested.


Put that worry to rest. Only Congress can make laws. The President can sign off on it or veto it, but Congress can override a veto if enough vote to do so.

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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Le_Canard]
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LC, actually the current occupant has been making his own laws for a while. Its unconstitutional but he brags that he has a pen and a phone...

If you don't like any of the major candidates vote third party to break the duopoly.


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Hillary hasn't won the Democratic nomination yet. If it's Trump vs bernie, the choice is obviously Bernie.

The only thing I like about Trump is the fact that his greatest fear is people not liking him. He may actually do what the people want, because he's scared of being disliked.


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
If you don't like any of the major candidates vote third party to break the duopoly.


I'm all for breaking this duopoly but there will never be(at least not this election) enough votes to do it. We'd need someone running from a third party that enough people know and will vote for. It would take someone with enough money to front their own campaign. Not that I think Trump would make a good Pres or that I'd ever vote for him but he is the guy who should probably be running third party.
Edit to add that "statement votes" are truly votes "thrown away"
Peace
Spock

Edited by spock (07/26/15 01:21 PM)

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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: spock]
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spock said:
Stonehenge said:
If you don't like any of the major candidates vote third party to break the duopoly.


I'm all for breaking this duopoly but there will never be(at least not this election) enough votes to do it. We'd need someone running from a third party that enough people know and will vote for. It would take someone with enough money to front their own campaign. Not that I think Trump would make a good Pres or that I'd ever vote for him but he is the guy who should probably be running third party.
Edit to add that "statement votes" are truly votes "thrown away"
Peace
Spock


I disagree. I believe you should vote how you feel, not 'play it safe'. Playing it safe is how we always end up compromising for shitty candidates. If you vote Green party, at least you're making a statement that you care about the environment, and to win your vote in the future, candidates may be more inclined to express environmental concerns.

In order for a 3rd party candidate to win, you'd have to establish a grass roots movement like the tea party, but unlike the tea party, you'd have to have policies that the general public agreed with. This country tends to be liberal on almost every issue. A liberal 3rd party movement would be far more successful than the tea party. Liberal America is far less organized, unfortunately, as demonstrated by the occupy movement.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: spock]
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>I'm all for breaking this duopoly but there will never be(at least not this election) enough votes to do it.

That is loser talk pushed by the duopoly to convince people not to get off the system and elect someone honest. For once woof is right.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Not loser talk. Just reality. There are other partys out there that get some votes. How's that working for them? Too much at stake. Dems are far from perfect but in my lifetime I have seen reps dig us into holes that are really coming close to breaking us. I could dream(and I do) but the reality of our current system is reality. I'm all for breaking the system if it could realistically happen and if someone was out there running that could do it. I have to vote for the lesser of two evils. I agree that 2 party system sucks but throwing away votes is not how to fix it. Someone needs to run 3rd party that has a chance. Trump or Bernie really could be(should be) the ones running 3rd party. They are not for a reason. Reality.
Peace
Spock

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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: spock] * 1
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Trump has already said that if he loses the nomination he will run 3rd party. If Trump runs 3rd party, I think Bernie should run 3rd party also. That would split the vote on both sides, and it would still be a fair matchup. In fact, it would be a much more honest election.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Trump has already said that if he loses the nomination he will run 3rd party.


He said on Morning Joe last week that he would not run as a 3rd party candidate if he lost the nomination. Only if he was treated "unfairly" by the GOP.


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
I find it ironic that Trump goes on and on about how he will be the "greatest jobs president god ever made" or some such delusion of grandeur. Yet Trump uses a bunch of overseas factories and labor to make some of the products he sells. I don't want an obnoxious, know-it-all hypocrite to represent the country.

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Donald Trump, who has repeatedly accused China of stealing manufacturing jobs from the U.S., acknowledged today that an array of Trump-branded clothes, accessories and other products are made in China. -- ABC News



You clearly haven't seen a Trump speech.

He fully admits it, he explained why numerous times and he hates the fact that he doesn't have a choice to go to China because the US can't compete against them


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Patlal]
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The bigger question here... who buys 'Trump' branded clothes!?! lmao


(Please don't answer this question Patlal)


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


Edited by Bigbadwooof (07/26/15 06:19 PM)

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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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hmm mm Trump is an idiot but nobody else is much better the Bernie guy would take my guns and a third party will never get into office. But Trump is still an idiot and me trolling the country just seems like a waste of a good vote. But then again the only ones I like are the librarians but as I said their is zero hope they get elected. :mad: If it comes to Hillary vs Trump im going for Trump but if its the Bernie guy im going to see what he has to say about marijuana ill trade my guns for weed any day :getstoned:


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: thewanderer25]
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Your guns won't be taken. Stock up on clips though. Seriously as far left that I am. damn near red. I don't own guns but if I wanted I think I should be able to own nukes. All these assholes shooting up unarmed civilians looks bad. But. Land of the free and home of the Brave. You can't have freedom without bravery. And weed. I don't really smoke weed anymore. Still like it but just does not fit my lifestyle right now.
Live free. Be brave. Watch out for those that sell fear. Trump only sells fear.

Peace
Spock

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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: thewanderer25]
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Bernie says the war on drugs is a 'disaster'... pretty sure he's not a fan. He doesn't believe anyone should go to jail over marijuana.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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He also has said that he'd like to see how marijuana legalization plays out in states that have legalized it. He's pro for medical marijuana, though. And he's for decriminalization.

I mean, saying you wanna see how legalizing weed effects the states that have it legal is probably the most reasonable choice.

Also, based on his past voting in the senate, and the state he represented, he doesn't really support gun control. Vermont has really lax gun laws. Bernie sanders voted against the Brady Act in 1993, which would restrict guns to felons and required mandated background checks. But recently he has endorsed moderate gun control.

He has even said after the Sandy Hook shooting that "if you passed the strongest gun control legislation tomorrow, I don’t think it will have a profound effect on the tragedies we have seen."

Also he's not running third party, he's trying to be the democrat nominee.


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Achillita]
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Achillita said:
He has even said after the Sandy Hook shooting that "if you passed the strongest gun control legislation tomorrow, I don’t think it will have a profound effect on the tragedies we have seen."

Also he's not running third party, he's trying to be the democrat nominee.


Pandora was let out the box off rip. The guns are out there. Whatcha gonna do? Go door to door? What he said is(I think)true.
Why would he run third party? He has a much better chance running democrat.

Peace
Spock

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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: spock]
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Man we need shrooms LSD weed and cocaine 100% legal why its not no one knows.


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: thewanderer25]
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Well, I can promise you that cocaine being legalized is most likely not gonna happen. Abusing cocaine causes a lot of problems, and for most people that outweighs the high.

Psychedelics are illegal because of fear mongering and idiots. Not for actually any sort of scientific proof or high possibility of a debilitating addiction.


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Achillita]
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Ah it doesn't matter im making my own cocaine.


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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: thewanderer25]
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1st choice Rand
2nd Ted
3rd Donald


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