DottoreWolfe said:
Actually Donald said live on Michael Savage he would not run as an independent because he didn't want to split the ticket. You say look to the left for defence of the constitution when Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Gary Johnson and many many others on the right have been sexual libertarians since the start.
When Ron Paul was running, all of the other Republican candidates literally mocked him for being a 'constitutionalist'. That's a clear demonstration of who does and doesn't give a flying fuck about the constitution.
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Obama authorised use of drones on US citizens and on US soil despite the rights pleas, Rand Paul (republican candidate) ended the provisions of the patriot act just a few months back which courts ruled unconstitutional on multiple accounts, but Obama failed to end it (and yeah I know Bush initiated the patriot act via exec. order, but we can all admit Bush did some dumb shit).
So you don't endorse Bush? That's great, I don't endorse Obama, and there were plenty on the left who were dead set against the patriot act, and NSA spying.
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Obama refuses to push for cannabis legalization, decriminalization or rescheduling these laws in turn end up to over 30% of the entire prison system.
Reagan was the war on drugs warrior, and no other president has done anything to stop it either. What is your point? Bernie Sanders says we should look at the data regarding the effects of legalization in the states where it has been legalized. I think that's the most sensible approach one could take.
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Democrats try to do everything they can to take my firearms from me, do you know what an assault rifle is? I'll attach a picture. "...the right to bear arms shall not be infringed upon". Yet here democrats go infringing every chance they get, Obama and Feinstein's attempt to ban assault weapons almost ended in civil war with people flying flags that said "come and take it".
I think it's perfectly reasonable not to allow violent criminals and schizophrenics to own assault weapons.
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Your crazy right-wingers spy? Obama had the option to end the patriot act for almost 7 years (because it was an executive order), yet it took a tea partier like Paul to finally stop the illegal bulk data collection Obama did nothing about for years.
I like that you're pretending Rand Paul did it alone! Apparently you've never heard of Alan Grayson or Bernie Sanders. Also, again, it was a right winger who started the patriot act. If you want to play like I endorse everything Obama (Who I consider every bit as right wing as anyone else), then I will assume you endorse Bush.
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I know what socialism is buddy, it's not capitalism, it's not the economy of the U.S. The cold war was fought over socialism vs capitalism, not communism vs capitalism. The CCCP ("USSR") is Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, not communists. America has shown time and time again that we don't want socialism, if Obama was an open socialist he would never have won, because we are a capitalistic society.
Americans don't want Socialism? 36% of Americans are perfectly fine with that word! 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/socialism-viewed-positively-americans.aspx
In fact, Capitalism is becoming the real dirty word in American politics. Right wing politicians have even been advised not to use the word 'capitalism', because it will hurt them in the polls. Socialism is more than just 'not capitalism', it is the result of a fine critique of capitalism by Marx and Engels. Interestingly enough, most of what Marx and Engels predicted about Capitalism has come true, and we're finally starting to see it's incredibly ugly side. Capitalism is great for emerging markets. When people say Socialism, they are not referring to communist dictatorships like Russia, China, or Cuba. There are two ways that Socialism has traditionally arisen in the world, in the past. Either a violent revolution, in which a dictator is put in place, or democratically like many European countries today. Germany (today) and many Nordic countries are better examples of the Socialism Bernie Sanders is referring to, and some of them are the strongest economies in Europe. Obama is not a Socialist, and to even infer such a thing is a clear demonstration that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Creating Social programs does not make you a Socialist. Right wing extremists like to exaggerate, and that's why many right wingers don't know what the fuck anything even means anymore, as it has all lost meaning.
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The reason democrats won the white house last time is because the came off as the "common sense" "party of the people", but socialist views always come off slightly too far to the left for most democrats. You say blue will be in the white house again, I know you are wrong, Bernie Sanders splitting the ticket really sealed the deal. After 2016 election we will re open this thread and see who was right :p
As I said, Bernie Sanders didn't split the ticket. Do you politics, bro? Mark my words, we will have a Dem in the white house again. A Socialist is far preferable to the American public than a billionaire, I promise you! People are tired of money in politics. They are tired of wealthy people buying elections, this is a bi-partisan issue, and you think we should put a billionaire in the oval office! lmao
By the way, Bernie Sanders is beating all of the Republican candidates in a nationwide poll.
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/07/cnn-poll-bernie-sanders-leads-all
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These pics below just show the difference between assault and non assault weapons... they are the exact same guns with basically different casings...that's it...so why were they trying to take away people's hunting rifles again?
Nobody is trying to take away rifles. They just wouldn't sell them anymore. There is no way to confiscate all of the assault rifles in America, and though there may be one or two politicians out there who would like to, it will not happen, and the vast majority don't even want it to. Stop listening to fear mongers, nobody is taking your fucking guns.
I find it funny how you right wingers are always running around talking about your gun rights to 'defend yourself against tyrany', however, you have no problem with the fact that police can drive tanks down city streets. How do you intend to defend against that? Alan Grayson (A democrat) created a bill that would prevent police from having nuclear weapons, armored tanks, and ballistic missiles. Right wingers shot it down. Apparently they thought it was unreasonable.
Furthermore, since you're such a fan of the constitution, I feel it is pertinent for you to understand the mindset of those who wrote it. It is not above criticism, and should not be viewed as some sort of holy document, though it is certainly deserving of our overall respect.
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Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the arc of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it, and labored with it. It deserved well of its country. It was very like the present, but without the experience of the present; and forty years of experience in government is worth a century of book-reading; and this they would say themselves, were they to rise from the dead. I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times.
- T. Jefferson
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