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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Bigbadwooof] 1
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paperbackwriter said: I don't think this forum is moderated. So I doubt I'll get banned.
Regardless of how the symbol has been used for any length of time and regardless of your religious preferences the symbol was also used in a very hateful way.
You're basically making the same argument the confederate flag people used. To me it's a symbol of this. Well.. most people say it like this.
Tool to me means mushrooms. A tool I use to expand my mind. It's still offensive to call people tools right? You're saying I can get banned for it right?
We both can recognize how someone could be offended by a symbol. In this case T-O-O-L. In your case the swastika.
Compassion is about recognizing other people's boundaries and respecting them.
I think that's an eastern religion thing too (compassion).
I support the confederate flag, I wear it weekly, I support my religious swastika and I won't back down in my right to use it. The cross may be offensive to some people, like gays or adulterers because the bible calls them abominations and calls for stonings, etc. Of course compassion is key, but my boundries regarding that symbol and yours just are so far apart there is no compromise possible. You should have compassion for my wearing it for religious purposes. I don't think its the symbol itself, but how it is used. Like you said fucking tool and the way you said it makes tool mean something bad. When KKK light cross and say death to blacks, that might make cross bad. But when I use my swastika or my confederate flag, I am not preaching hate, rather just the opposite, I used it as a symbol of love, I will till I die, my kids will surely use it and their kids after them. I just hope that one day I won't be attacked because of others' lack of knowledge or contempt for a religiothat comparatively is an S vs Z (it's not by any definition identical), foQuote:
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DottoreWolfe said: 1st choice Rand 2nd Ted 3rd Donald
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Ted Cruz and Donald are both fuckin chumps.
Dude Bernie Sanders is a socialist, you want higher taxes? You think domestic businesses and local start ups should pay more? One common definition of communism is that it is just an extreme form of socialism. Communism in my eyes is akin to facism (I mean look at every single communist contury which ever existed). I would never vote to raise my taxes, I would never vote to raise anyones taxes (our taxes are higher than communist and present day Russia, as well as present day china). I would never vote for socialism because socialism is a country en route to communism (in my opinon). I love the 2nd amendment and will die defending it, but Bernie Sanders is rated F by the NRA indicating he is very in favour of tight gun control (limiting my ability to defend self from threats foreign and domestic, also my ability to hunt is a necessity). Bernie Sanders wanting to raise taxes, voted to raise congressional pay, despite the fact that we are so in debt that he feels we should raise the already unjust tax rate on U.S. citizens. I hope you realize that Bernie Sanders is really actually screwing Clinton over big time, just like Ron Paul did with Mitt Romney (causing Obama to win, albeit unintentionally), Bernie Sanders is too splitting the ticket, but with him it's a much stronger factor because he is running independent pulling more votes from Hillary (he's not pulling too many republican or tea-party votes). I'm happy you want Bernie Sanders to win, I've been super happy since I found that he was a welfare loving socialist (soontobe commie), I hope he pulls attracts millions of democrats, this steals away what were votes for Hillary, giving the republican candidate an easy win. 
Bernie isn't running as an independent. Bernie isn't a 'commie', and he's hardly even a Socialist. I am a Socialist. I find most of your Libertarian philosophy utterly detestible. By the way, Bernie pulled his highest numbers at a rally in Arizona. The highest of any candidate yet.
Republicans will not take the whitehouse. Bernie might, but no Republican will. Your precious Donald Trump has already stated he will run 3rd party if he doesn't win the nomination, so I'll enjoy that.
Look, you clearly don't know fuckall about Socialism. I've explained it several times on these forums, and I don't have the patience to do it again.
What the fuck does 'restore the constitution' even mean, btw? The constitution is perfectly intact, and if you're looking for someone to defend the constitution, you should look to he left. Its democrats who stand for personal liberties like gay rights and womens rights. Right-wingers just yap about it while they spy on you, torture people, and start illegal wars of aggression.
Actually Donald said live on Michael Savage he would not run as an independent because he didn't want to split the ticket. You say look to the left for defence of the constitution when Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Gary Johnson and many many others on the right have been sexual libertarians since the start. Obama authorised use of drones on US citizens and on US soil despite the rights pleas, Rand Paul (republican candidate) ended the provisions of the patriot act just a few months back which courts ruled unconstitutional on multiple accounts, but Obama failed to end it (and yeah I know Bush initiated the patriot act via exec. order, but we can all admit Bush did some dumb shit). Obama refuses to push for cannabis legalization, decriminalization or rescheduling these laws in turn end up to over 30% of the entire prison system. Obama used cannabis yet laughs Hahah "if more states continue on this path than maybe someday...", but if he got caught smoking even one time he would have a hard time holding a job at Lowes let alone the presidency, that's disgusting. Rand supports making it federal law to allow states to decide for selves and Trump support full legalization. Democrats try to do everything they can to take my firearms from me, do you know what an assault rifle is? I'll attach a picture. "...the right to bear arms shall not be infringed upon". Yet here democrats go infringing every chance they get, Obama and Feinstein's attempt to ban assault weapons almost ended in civil war with people flying flags that said "come and take it". Your crazy right-wingers spy? Obama had the option to end the patriot act for almost 7 years (because it was an executive order), yet it took a tea partier like Paul to finally stop the illegal bulk data collection Obama did nothing about for years. I know what socialism is buddy, it's not capitalism, it's not the economy of the U.S. The cold war was fought over socialism vs capitalism, not communism vs capitalism. The CCCP ("USSR") is Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, not communists. America has shown time and time again that we don't want socialism, if Obama was an open socialist he would never have won, because we are a capitalistic society. The reason democrats won the white house last time is because the came off as the "common sense" "party of the people", but socialist views always come off slightly too far to the left for most democrats. You say blue will be in the white house again, I know you are wrong, Bernie Sanders splitting the ticket really sealed the deal. After 2016 election we will re open this thread and see who was right :p
These pics below just show the difference between assault and non assault weapons... they are the exact same guns with basically different casings...that's it...so why were they trying to take away people's hunting rifles again?
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I want the drug war to end too.
I also want climate change acknowledged. Of the two the later is more important imo.
In short, Rand Paul can lick my chode.
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Trump is for full legalization of pot? He's got my vote. You think obumble is ever going to do it? Not a chance. Think hill+billy is going to do it? Not a chance, the pharm industry already has her in their pocket. Trump is our only hope for the near future.
I can't believe I hear people, supposedly rational people saying they prefer a puppet over a real person. Say it out loud and tell me it doesn't sound kookoo? The oligarchy and assorted power holders have not been doing us well. We are worse off than ever in many ways. Employment remains at long time lows and much of that is part time work. On the horizon, storm clouds gather, happy days like these may go away for a while.
And you want more of the same??? More of the same bunch that put us into this mess? Another hand picked puppet like hill or jeb? A joke is that the definition of insanity is to keep on doing the same things over and over hoping for a different outcome.
Someone tell me they are joking?
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paperbackwriter said: I want the drug war to end too.
I also want climate change acknowledged. Of the two the later is more important imo.
In short, Rand Paul can lick my chode.
Finally something we can agree on...climate change, obviously it's happening look at any of the images of ice caps over the years, especially in Northern Hemisphere, it's melting crazy fast too. I don't know why some (not all) republicans chose to ignore the empirical evidence.
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Man I want it all to be legal guns money drugs cheap women. Like the day I can snort a line of coke of a prostitute's ass with my loaded ak-47 in public is the day our country beats amsterdam in the best country. I want it legal man everything that doesn't hurt others like I think it all should be legal. Im sooo fucking high dough
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DottoreWolfe said: Actually Donald said live on Michael Savage he would not run as an independent because he didn't want to split the ticket. You say look to the left for defence of the constitution when Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Gary Johnson and many many others on the right have been sexual libertarians since the start.
When Ron Paul was running, all of the other Republican candidates literally mocked him for being a 'constitutionalist'. That's a clear demonstration of who does and doesn't give a flying fuck about the constitution.
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Obama authorised use of drones on US citizens and on US soil despite the rights pleas, Rand Paul (republican candidate) ended the provisions of the patriot act just a few months back which courts ruled unconstitutional on multiple accounts, but Obama failed to end it (and yeah I know Bush initiated the patriot act via exec. order, but we can all admit Bush did some dumb shit).
So you don't endorse Bush? That's great, I don't endorse Obama, and there were plenty on the left who were dead set against the patriot act, and NSA spying.
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Obama refuses to push for cannabis legalization, decriminalization or rescheduling these laws in turn end up to over 30% of the entire prison system.
Reagan was the war on drugs warrior, and no other president has done anything to stop it either. What is your point? Bernie Sanders says we should look at the data regarding the effects of legalization in the states where it has been legalized. I think that's the most sensible approach one could take.
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Democrats try to do everything they can to take my firearms from me, do you know what an assault rifle is? I'll attach a picture. "...the right to bear arms shall not be infringed upon". Yet here democrats go infringing every chance they get, Obama and Feinstein's attempt to ban assault weapons almost ended in civil war with people flying flags that said "come and take it".
I think it's perfectly reasonable not to allow violent criminals and schizophrenics to own assault weapons.
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Your crazy right-wingers spy? Obama had the option to end the patriot act for almost 7 years (because it was an executive order), yet it took a tea partier like Paul to finally stop the illegal bulk data collection Obama did nothing about for years.
I like that you're pretending Rand Paul did it alone! Apparently you've never heard of Alan Grayson or Bernie Sanders. Also, again, it was a right winger who started the patriot act. If you want to play like I endorse everything Obama (Who I consider every bit as right wing as anyone else), then I will assume you endorse Bush.
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I know what socialism is buddy, it's not capitalism, it's not the economy of the U.S. The cold war was fought over socialism vs capitalism, not communism vs capitalism. The CCCP ("USSR") is Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, not communists. America has shown time and time again that we don't want socialism, if Obama was an open socialist he would never have won, because we are a capitalistic society.
Americans don't want Socialism? 36% of Americans are perfectly fine with that word!  http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/socialism-viewed-positively-americans.aspx
In fact, Capitalism is becoming the real dirty word in American politics. Right wing politicians have even been advised not to use the word 'capitalism', because it will hurt them in the polls. Socialism is more than just 'not capitalism', it is the result of a fine critique of capitalism by Marx and Engels. Interestingly enough, most of what Marx and Engels predicted about Capitalism has come true, and we're finally starting to see it's incredibly ugly side. Capitalism is great for emerging markets. When people say Socialism, they are not referring to communist dictatorships like Russia, China, or Cuba. There are two ways that Socialism has traditionally arisen in the world, in the past. Either a violent revolution, in which a dictator is put in place, or democratically like many European countries today. Germany (today) and many Nordic countries are better examples of the Socialism Bernie Sanders is referring to, and some of them are the strongest economies in Europe. Obama is not a Socialist, and to even infer such a thing is a clear demonstration that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Creating Social programs does not make you a Socialist. Right wing extremists like to exaggerate, and that's why many right wingers don't know what the fuck anything even means anymore, as it has all lost meaning.
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The reason democrats won the white house last time is because the came off as the "common sense" "party of the people", but socialist views always come off slightly too far to the left for most democrats. You say blue will be in the white house again, I know you are wrong, Bernie Sanders splitting the ticket really sealed the deal. After 2016 election we will re open this thread and see who was right :p
As I said, Bernie Sanders didn't split the ticket. Do you politics, bro? Mark my words, we will have a Dem in the white house again. A Socialist is far preferable to the American public than a billionaire, I promise you! People are tired of money in politics. They are tired of wealthy people buying elections, this is a bi-partisan issue, and you think we should put a billionaire in the oval office! lmao
By the way, Bernie Sanders is beating all of the Republican candidates in a nationwide poll. http://crooksandliars.com/2015/07/cnn-poll-bernie-sanders-leads-all
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These pics below just show the difference between assault and non assault weapons... they are the exact same guns with basically different casings...that's it...so why were they trying to take away people's hunting rifles again?
Nobody is trying to take away rifles. They just wouldn't sell them anymore. There is no way to confiscate all of the assault rifles in America, and though there may be one or two politicians out there who would like to, it will not happen, and the vast majority don't even want it to. Stop listening to fear mongers, nobody is taking your fucking guns.
I find it funny how you right wingers are always running around talking about your gun rights to 'defend yourself against tyrany', however, you have no problem with the fact that police can drive tanks down city streets. How do you intend to defend against that? Alan Grayson (A democrat) created a bill that would prevent police from having nuclear weapons, armored tanks, and ballistic missiles. Right wingers shot it down. Apparently they thought it was unreasonable.
Furthermore, since you're such a fan of the constitution, I feel it is pertinent for you to understand the mindset of those who wrote it. It is not above criticism, and should not be viewed as some sort of holy document, though it is certainly deserving of our overall respect.
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paperbackwriter said: I want the drug war to end too.
I also want climate change acknowledged. Of the two the later is more important imo.
In short, Rand Paul can lick my chode.
Finally something we can agree on...climate change, obviously it's happening look at any of the images of ice caps over the years, especially in Northern Hemisphere, it's melting crazy fast too. I don't know why some (not all) republicans chose to ignore the empirical evidence.
It's because Republicans serve big business, and not the people. They are the party of the wealthy class, clearly. They don't give a fuck about us. Interestingly enough, they are also the party with a billionaire leading the way right now!
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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Apparently the forum is moderated. I received a warning last night for my drunken ramblings.
Sorry for being a tool myself.
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paperbackwriter said: Apparently the forum is moderated. I received a warning last night for my drunken ramblings.
Sorry for being a tool myself.
One of the reasons I quit drinking ;-)
The moderators only give out warnings if someone reports you to them. Apparently someone was a bit butthurt. If they actually hung around, I would think they would be passing out warnings left and right for all the racist shit on this forum.
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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Yeah, can't say I'm a huge fan. Was running low on weed though.
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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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paperbackwriter said: I want the drug war to end too.
I also want climate change acknowledged. Of the two the later is more important imo.
In short, Rand Paul can lick my chode.
Finally something we can agree on...climate change, obviously it's happening look at any of the images of ice caps over the years, especially in Northern Hemisphere, it's melting crazy fast too. I don't know why some (not all) republicans chose to ignore the empirical evidence.
It's because Republicans serve big business, and not the people. They are the party of the wealthy class, clearly. They don't give a fuck about us. Interestingly enough, they are also the party with a billionaire leading the way right now!
You say republicans are all these bad things and that Obama is a right winger (he is the opposite of a right winger). By not selling guns anymore, you are basically taking all guns away over a period of time, which isn't right. You support them not selling guns? that means in a few hundred years there will be no more guns LEGALLY owned in the US. This country will split in two before we become a socialist nation, how can you say Bernie Sanders wont split the ticket...lol You say he is leading Republicans, maybe in a poll of Bernie Sanders V. Republicans, but in an election where its Democrats VS. Independents VS. Republicans he is very far behind, and he is even further behind attaining the nomination. Also above you spoke like Trump is undoubtedly the nominee he has only been polling well as of late, but prior Cruz, Walker, Rubio, Paul, Bush all each went to the top of polls and fell. The election is a long ways away. I really really don't think that Sanders, a socialist, who isn't even running as a democrat, will win...but, to each his own. Like I said we will re open this thread after the election. Also you say Paul didn't end patriot act alone, yeah your right be he lead the coalition, he was the one who did a filibuster, he is the one the blocked the extension of patriot act. Why don't you check out this Rand Paul speech, if honestly still feel the way you do after watching than I can understand, but you have to at least listen to the other side before you call us party of the rich, etc. I support a "leave me alone" philosophy and high taxes and gun control oppose this notion in every way. Just watch this one speech before you hate on my beliefs for another day. I am sure you can spare a few minutes to understand what you seem to despise so much.
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DottoreWolfe said: You say republicans are all these bad things and that Obama is a right winger (he is the opposite of a right winger).
I'm not going to call Obama a right winger although I probably have before. That is the biggest problem I've had with him. Being too far to the right.
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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: spock]
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I'm not going to call Obama a right winger although I probably have before. That is the biggest problem I've had with him. Being too far to the right.
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Obumble is a mongrel mix of bad right wing ideas and bad left wing ideas. He took the worst of each extreme and incorporated them.
After he leaves office watch him rake in the bucks doing bogus speeches for big money. That's how they do it now, no more bags of cash in the middle of the night, they wait till he's out and give him money. Reagan did the same thing, got $2M for a speech in japan which of course had nothing to do with him giving them most favored nation status. 
Obumble will do the same, hill+billy do it too, plus using their fake charity to launder bribes. The media must have blinders on to not notice the many scandals that bitch has.
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Once again, for the third time, Sanders isn't running independent. He is running as a DEMOCRAT! Sanders is running as a Democrat. Sanders is running for the Democratic nomination. Sanders is running against Hillary to be the Democratic nominee. Sanders is not running on a 3rd party ticket. Do we have that clear?
Bernie Sanders has higher national bi-partisan favorability than any Republican candidate. In other words, the country as a whole is more inclined to vote for Sanders than any Republican candidate as it stands.
Also, as far as guns go, if that's your big issue, then you can rest assured nobody is taking your guns. Nobody is even trying to take your fucking gun, unless you have schizophrenia, or a violent criminal history, in which case, you shouldn't be allowed to have them.
Trump is the far away leader in the polls last I saw. However, the debates haven't started yet, so we have a long way to go. Sanders doesn't have the name recognition that Hillary does, but his poll numbers have been steadily doubling every couple months, and Hillary's have been dropping faster than Bernies have been rising!
Sanders isn't a Socialist. He believes in strong social programs, and that is considered Socialism in America, but it is not Socialism. Nowadays they call it 'Democratic Socialism', but it's really just a Capitalist mixed economy, like what Germany has.
As far as I'm aware, the Patriot Act is still a problem in this country, correct me if I am wrong. The NSA is still spying, and Rand Paul was mostly just grandstanding to increase his electability. Don't get me wrong. I like Rand Paul. I believe he is a man of integrity, and an idealist, which I would like to see more of in government. However, I disagree with his ideals. I find Libertarianism to be a beautiful misrepresentation of the world. A way to package corporate greed and unethical maltreatment of the environment and the community in simple terms that make it sound appealing. It is an avenue for the wealthy to cry about taxes and restrictions on their unfettered capitalist growth, that swallows up entire economies and moves on to its next victim. It is an abhorrent philosophy.
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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Bush does it too, by the way. They all do.
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DottoreWolfe said: You say republicans are all these bad things and that Obama is a right winger (he is the opposite of a right winger).
I'm not going to call Obama a right winger although I probably have before. That is the biggest problem I've had with him. Being too far to the right.
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I'm not going to call Obama a right winger although I probably have before. That is the biggest problem I've had with him. Being too far to the right.
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Too left for me
I think Reagan was too far left for you lmao
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Re: Who Is Voting For Trump? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22031317 - 08/01/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DottoreWolfe said: You say republicans are all these bad things and that Obama is a right winger (he is the opposite of a right winger).
I'm not going to call Obama a right winger although I probably have before. That is the biggest problem I've had with him. Being too far to the right.
Peace Spock
Too left for me
I think Reagan was too far left for you lmao
I feel I'm not even to the right sometimes, a lot of right wingers want big government which I strongly oppose. I don't believe in destruction of the environment by the way...I don't know how you associate that with libertarianism..of course I believe in environmental regulations, many libertarians do (as that is a matter which affects all peoples right to life). You say they only want to take guns from crazies and violent criminals, but that is simply not true Obama, Feinstein, Pelosi and that whole crew had a whole campaign to ban "assault weapons" (which are really just hunting rifles with plastic casings (as seen in pic I attached earlier)). When that campaign failed miserably they tried to ban AR 15 bullets....they couldn't get the gun so they came after the bullets...sounds like an action made by a fascist. Libertarianism is what our country was founded on, the whole notion of a tea party, self reliance, freedom from government, etc. Now i'm taxed up the ass, if I wanted to buy land and just live there I couldn't becausae I would have to get money for taxes (so you basically have to work), they try to take weapons, they want to force me to buy healthcare, I can't even follow my religion of using ahyuasca and peyote for true religious purposes now the constitution is being violated, our rights are being tugged away from us while the tea party desperately tries to pull back on the reigns government.
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paperbackwriter
Edward Lear


Registered: 03/31/14
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I agree that a lot of our rights are being violated. The 4th amendment is a big one. As far as Libertarians being anti-environment both Pauls are notorious anti-environment supporters. And of course, the Koch Brothers create a shit ton of pollution with their business practices and just pay a fine, even when lives are lost as a result.
So for me Libertarian simply means anarchy. But the robber baron sort of anarchy outlined in Ayn Rand's books as opposed to some kind of anarchist syndicalism as supported by Chomsky.
-------------------- Why should we strive with cynic frown To knock their fairy castles down? ~ Eliza Cook It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley
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