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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: hostileuniverse]
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improve it.

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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
when Bernie wins and we go full blown entitlement state, what does that do to the economy?


Oh my lord, another STRAW MAN!  :facepalm3:


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
hostileuniverse said:
when Bernie wins and we go full blown entitlement state, what does that do to the economy?


Oh my lord, another STRAW MAN!  :facepalm3:


So Bernie ISN'T going to win???


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: hostileuniverse]
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He isn't "full blown entitlement state".  :facepalm3:


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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hostileuniverse said:
Does America really need more cheap labor? I guess you can't have too much of a good thing, right? But when Bernie wins and we go full blown entitlement state, what does that do to the economy?


Stimulates it. Did you history teacher fail you also?


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
Does America really need more cheap labor? I guess you can't have too much of a good thing, right? But when Bernie wins and we go full blown entitlement state, what does that do to the economy?


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More Mexican immigrants have returned to Mexico from the U.S. than have migrated here since the end of the Great Recession, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of newly available government data from both countries. The same data sources also show the overall flow of Mexican immigrants between the two countries is at its smallest since the 1990s, mostly due to a drop in the number of Mexican immigrants coming to the U.S.


http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/19/more-mexicans-leaving-than-coming-to-the-u-s/?utm_expid=53098246-2.Lly4CFSVQG2lphsg-KopIg.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

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Citing Mexican census figures, the report found that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S. for Mexico from 2009 to 2014. It said that U.S. census data for the same period shows an estimated 870,000 Mexicans entered the U.S.


http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/19/news/economy/more-mexicans-leaving-us-than-coming/

Mexicans have been leaving the country in significant numbers since 2009. They're taking their American born children with them.

I think my theory hold water :wink:

This theory, that is:

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To be honest, I think the reason that the leaders of European countries and the US are putting such high bids in for refugees, despite opposition from their people, is to create an influx of cheap labor. It's good for big business. That's just a theory of mine though.



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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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But who's gonna pick our fruit and kill our citizens?


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Fresh bodies on the dole are instant democrat voters. Just like the felons Barry let loose a few months ago.


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: Astral Pain]
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Religious fanatics tend to vote Republican. Thankfully Republicans have alienated the Muslim community.


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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I don't know man but if Bernie doesn't beat Hillary then I'll pick trump over Hillary any day.

He can continue the war on drugs all he wants but the states will decide for themselves in the end. As far as muslims go I've met a lot of really friendly muslims who complain about the rasism in America because of 9/11. On the other hand what happened in Paris and San Bernardino is kind of scary to think about. I think more people need to have concealed firearms in case of these situations. You can order firearms and explosives off the darknet easily. Gun laws are just taking guns awaymfrom people who need them for protection. Not every terrorist is a Muslim, but we have to make sure people entering this country aren't dangerous, Muslim or not.

Trump is refreshing to me. Seems like all we've had is corrupt politicians who are paid off by globalists elites to say and do anything they tell them. Trumps so rich I don't think he's getting paid off.


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: Astral Pain] * 1
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Astral Pain said:
Who knows if it's a database that he was agreeing with in the first place. He went on about a wall and keeping track of people who come into this country, and then the reporter asked him if his white house would implement "this". Define "this" and you'll have the answer to what he was referring to.


You're still missing the point. Here are his full comments over multiple days in context, for reference: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/24/donald-trumps-comments-database-american-muslims/.

The issue is not whether or not he supports a database. The issue is that he isn't disgusted by the idea. The only appropriate response is not an ambiguous, unclear reply that might be offering support, or might be talking about something else. The only acceptable response is to explicitly reject the idea of such a database. Conservatives especially should reject it based on the amount of power being given to the federal government. And everyone should reject it because of the fascist undertones it carries. I don't think Trump ever explicitly supported it, but he certainly didn't seem that opposed, and that's what I take huge issue with.


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: BoldAsLove]
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:whathesaid:


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Religious fanatics tend to vote Republican. Thankfully Republicans have alienated the Muslim community.


Gobblety gook, most Christians vote democrat, jesus was a "socialist" remember?


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
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Religious fanatics tend to vote Republican. Thankfully Republicans have alienated the Muslim community.


Gobblety gook, most Christians vote democrat, jesus was a "socialist" remember?


:lmafo::lolsy::asianofapproval:

Yeah, damn right!

It's the atheists that vote Republican! That's why Republicans spend so much time talking about pro-choice, separation of church and state, and evolution!


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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you should really try facts instead of straw mans,

if people of faith voted republican, the democrats would NEVER win, thats a fact, I know you think the republican caters to religious people, and they do, to some extent, but thats obviously not what most voters base their votes on...

Ive always found it ironic how dems hate jews (or at least the jewish state) but the jews overwhelmingly support them in elections



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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
you should really try facts instead of straw mans,

if people of faith voted republican, the democrats would NEVER win, thats a fact, I know you think the republican caters to religious people, and they do, to some extent, but thats obviously not what most voters base their votes on...

Ive always found it ironic how dems hate jews (or at least the jewish state) but the jews overwhelmingly support them in elections




the jewish state does not represent world jewry however much they like to pretend. many american jews are against the jewish state and their activities. there are many jewish groups in solidarity with palestine and against the occupation.

you are good at lumping people into one homogenous group.

also, doesnt your table show that very religious people voted more republican than democrat?
there is also a clear race divide.


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: Tipote]
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http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/we-asked-a-fascism-expert-if-donald-trump-is-a-fascist-124


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/we-asked-a-fascism-expert-if-donald-trump-is-a-fascist-124


"Trump is sort of proposing could lead to a marriage of business and government"

What nonsense, we already have a marriage to business and government today, when Trump suggests a 35% tariff on imports from China and Mexico, he's giving the middle finger to shareholders, it's the complete opposite of what this article is suggesting, pure garbage.

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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
hostileuniverse said:
you should really try facts instead of straw mans,

if people of faith voted republican, the democrats would NEVER win, thats a fact, I know you think the republican caters to religious people, and they do, to some extent, but thats obviously not what most voters base their votes on...

Ive always found it ironic how dems hate jews (or at least the jewish state) but the jews overwhelmingly support them in elections




the jewish state does not represent world jewry however much they like to pretend. many american jews are against the jewish state and their activities. there are many jewish groups in solidarity with palestine and against the occupation.

you are good at lumping people into one homogenous group.

also, doesnt your table show that very religious people voted more republican than democrat?
there is also a clear race divide.


I missed the part about "very religious" maybe you can point out that part in the chart

yes, there is, blacks, hispanics, and jews overwhelmingly support democrats, the racist party, when you divide the country along races, these are the results


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Re: Donald Trump - The Embodiment of American Fascism [Re: hostileuniverse]
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well born again/evangelical and mormon is very religious...


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