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So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... * 1
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If you listen to his hour long speeches and interview, the guy makes sense. I tried to be as critical as possible but he hits the nail on the head on many issues. Clearly he doesn't care about what the media will say. Then again most of what he says is exactly whats going on...

I dont know why people hate him so much. The truth hurts I guess


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
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interesting, maybe he's worth a listen. Had just been ignoring it like most political stuff


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
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You can almost see the disdain and condescending contempt for him dripping from the mouth of the elite media.

I don't think he has a great chance, but I don't count him out entirely. The media says he can't win because he's from "show business". I seem to remember another candidate they said that about in the 80s'...

Also.. I CANNOT wait to see him on that debate stage with Christie and the other candidates.
Say you what you want about him. The man doesn't pull his punches.  :popcorn:


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: zorbman]
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I actually could see him winning the Republican nomination, even though 75% of Republicans say they will 'never' vote for him! He's polling 2nd to Jebb right now. The votes will be spread so thin, that he certainly has a shot! lmao

I want to see Trump vs Sanders! Holy jesus, that would be amazing. Sanders would wrap this thing up in no time! I think the old man deserves a smooth down-hill ride to the POTUS seat, after battling Hillary.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Santorum and Gingrich last year bowed out by early May.  The field will be down to 4 candidates at the most by the time primaries roll around.

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Are you talking about the Republican field or both parties?

Either way, that's a lot to widdle down.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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the republican field. Half of these guys are throwing their hat in there for free publicity and money to work towards something else or prime a real attempt in 4 years.

No way that someone like Jindal actually thinks he has a real chance and enough support to be taken seriously. Bush, Paul, Rubio, and _______. Where that blank will be filled by whoever emerges from the group of other candidates... like walker.

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Currently Bush and Trump are the frontrunners by about double+ of other candidates.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
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The media is practically foaming at the mouth angry at trump. They do not want to see a candidate not approved by the big shots get the nomination. Paul will get the same treatment if he starts showing good poll numbers. That is what makes trump dangerous, they remember ross pea-rot who almost won but self destructed first.

Trump keeps making blunders so I doubt he will get it. The extreme left of course wants him to get the nomination so he would be an easy opponent for hitlery. Trump is in it for the publicity which he can turn into cash very easily later.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
The media is practically foaming at the mouth angry at trump. They do not want to see a candidate not approved by the big shots get the nomination. Paul will get the same treatment if he starts showing good poll numbers. That is what makes trump dangerous, they remember ross pea-rot who almost won but self destructed first.

Trump keeps making blunders so I doubt he will get it. The extreme left of course wants him to get the nomination so he would be an easy opponent for hitlery. Trump is in it for the publicity which he can turn into cash very easily later.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Psydren]
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The way he talks, he's in it for America, not cash. Ever since he announced his candidacy he's been losing contracts here and there. No other candidates will lose so much of his personal money on this


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
The way he talks, he's in it for America, not cash. Ever since he announced his candidacy he's been losing contracts here and there. No other candidates will lose so much of his personal money on this


I actually like a couple things Donald Trump says, but he can say them because he's not in it to win. For instance, he's against the trade deals that are ruining our country.

I find it funny that he might run against Hillary, when he's donated so much money to her in the past.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
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yea its just not real to me, I cant wait for debate tho haha, can you imagine 

Procture" Mr. Trump, how will you handle foreign trade deals with China?"

Trump"  Im goinna tax the hell outa China, make them bring us all our  jobs back, and shut down all the legislation allowing US companies to move overseas....... but don't worry, sold them a nice condo 3 months ago, great guys what can I say?  I sell the best building, I really DO!!"

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
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>The way he talks, he's in it for America, not cash

Watch what he does and pay little attention to what he says

>Ever since he announced his candidacy he's been losing contracts here and there.

He made a blunder about Mexicans, cost him something. He is about more publicity for personal reasons plus it makes his brand more valuable. He will make loads of money on tv shows, merchandising and branding unless he allows himself to become toxic with too many blunders.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
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yep

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Psydren]
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Trump is like the kid who asks "why don't we just print more money to pay off the debt?"

He's talking about dismantling entrenched trade deals that would have massive repercussions.

Yes, Donald, let's "tax China." Then when the cost of goods skyrocket people in this country will revolt.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Trump is like the kid who asks "why don't we just print more money to pay off the debt?"

He's talking about dismantling entrenched trade deals that would have massive repercussions.

Yes, Donald, let's "tax China." Then when the cost of goods skyrocket people in this country will revolt.


You're pro free trade? Wow, that's kindof surprising.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
The media is practically foaming at the mouth angry at trump. They do not want to see a candidate not approved by the big shots get the nomination. Paul will get the same treatment if he starts showing good poll numbers. .


Bingo. They got a club, and he ain't in it. Trump is no Reagan. But you saw a very similar attitude with the media back then. Reagan was the "show business" outsider. A cowboy. Unsophisticated. They absolutely loathed him. Well he ended up being a two term president and very succcessful by most accounts.

As for Paul, he was already savagely attacked right out of the gate by the media and other candidates. I think he would do much better running as a Third Party candidate. Today's Republican party is loaded with warmongers. He will never make it out of there to the general election.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: zorbman]
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zorbman said:
Stonehenge said:
The media is practically foaming at the mouth angry at trump. They do not want to see a candidate not approved by the big shots get the nomination. Paul will get the same treatment if he starts showing good poll numbers. .


Bingo. They got a club, and he ain't in it. Trump is no Reagan. But you saw a very similar attitude with the media back then. Reagan was the "show business" outsider. A cowboy. Unsophisticated. They absolutely loathed him. Well he ended up being a two term president and very succcessful by most accounts.

As for Paul, he was already savagely attacked right out of the gate by the media and other candidates. I think he would do much better running as a Third Party candidate. Today's Republican party is loaded with warmongers. He will never make it out of there to the general election.


I agree with what you said about Ron Paul, however had he made it through the primaries, he would have been quite successful in the general election, though I doubt anyone could have overthrown Obama, honestly. Ron Paul did, in his extremism ironically enough, have views that both sides of the spectrum could get behind.

It took Reagan 3 campaigns before he won the POTUS seat, and it was one of the biggest mistakes the American people ever made.

Let's face it, Donald Trump isn't some outsider visionary. He's a self aggrandizing pompous asshole. I mean, he sues comedians for making jokes about that thing on his head (Hair? I dunno, you tell me!). He's too soft to be president. I can see him nuking someone for saying his breath stinks! I don't care about his racism, or Ron Paul's for that matter. I do like his trade policy statements, but I doubt he would follow through. Donald Trump is just another belligerent product of privilege in America, just like George W. Bush.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
The Ecstatic said:
Trump is like the kid who asks "why don't we just print more money to pay off the debt?"

He's talking about dismantling entrenched trade deals that would have massive repercussions.

Yes, Donald, let's "tax China." Then when the cost of goods skyrocket people in this country will revolt.


You're pro free trade? Wow, that's kindof surprising.


It doesn't matter whether I am or not, Trump's talking points are the opposite of pragmatism. As "radical" as Bernie's agenda is painted, his is actually feasible. Pissing off China and our own consumers in order to accomplish what? Making a point that you hate the unyielding tide of globalization? Brilliant.


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