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Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing “25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad” and 51% of those polled, “agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah.” Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won’t convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

    Mr. Trump stated, “Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again.”

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Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.

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Astral Pain said:

It's getting out of hand the way they're reporting this as unconstitutional and unprecedented. They're making themselves look really dumb by not being honest about the law and reality of the situation.

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Astral Pain said:

Suspending the entry of aliens is constitutional and has been done before by Jimmy Carter in 1979 during the hostage crisis.

Carter Banned Iranians from Coming to US During Hostage Crisis

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Astral Pain said:

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Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

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EXACTLY.  You can't just ban them because you don't like Muslims.  You need to put some kind of criteria around which ones should be banned.

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this is exactly what Mr. Trump is talking about, suspending immigrations until we can figure out what "kind of criteria" we should be using to weed out the good from the bad

YOU agree with Mr. Trump!

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

You need to figure out the criteria BEFORE you randomly start banning Muslims. 

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hostileuniverse said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

You need to figure out the criteria BEFORE you randomly start banning Muslims. 

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so until then, just let them all in? good plan

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No, don't "let them all in".



Until then, continue the existing screening process, which is relatively stringent.

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Until then, continue the existing screening process, which is relatively stringent.

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hostileuniverse said:

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Until then, continue the existing screening process, which is relatively stringent.

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the 9/11 terrorists, the boston bombers, the san bernadino terrorists all passed our "relatively stringent" screening processes,

so... keep letting them in?

i don't think the risk to american lives is worth it, but thats just me, surely there is time to suspend this program, its not like the muslims are going anywhere...

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burgerbrain said:

hostileuniverse said:

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Until then, continue the existing screening process, which is relatively stringent.

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the 9/11 terrorists, the boston bombers, the san bernadino terrorists all passed our "relatively stringent" screening processes,

so... keep letting them in?

i don't think the risk to american lives is worth it, but thats just me, surely there is time to suspend this program, its not like the muslims are going anywhere...

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The political libtards in our government love to let these fuckers in.. Look at Deerborn, MI.. WTF is this shit

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Sulfurshelfsean said:

burgerbrain said:

hostileuniverse said:

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Until then, continue the existing screening process, which is relatively stringent.

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the 9/11 terrorists, the boston bombers, the san bernadino terrorists all passed our "relatively stringent" screening processes,

so... keep letting them in?

i don't think the risk to american lives is worth it, but thats just me, surely there is time to suspend this program, its not like the muslims are going anywhere...

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The political libtards in our government love to let these fuckers in.. Look at Deerborn, MI.. WTF is this shit

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/02/dearborn-mi-where-muslims-are-americans.html
The Dearborn "no-go zone" myth? It's a fanciful myth, what about it?

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Sulfurshelfsean said:

I've heard those myths as well. And no I don't believe in myths.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/nogozones.asp

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These are not full-fledged no-go zones but, as the French nomenclature accurately indicates, "sensitive urban zones." In normal times, they are unthreatening, routine places. But they do unpredictably erupt, with car burnings, attacks on representatives of the state (including police), and riots.

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A few [Zones Urbaines Sensibles] are truly no-go zones, while most are just areas where the government is focusing more development and police require special procedures to operate. A few (NOT ALL of the 751 ZUS, as falsely reported in "anti-jihadist blogs") of these zones, primarily around Paris, are under control of radical Islamists.

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Department of Homeland Security whistleblower Philip Haney gave an extensive interview to Breitbart News Daily on Friday morning, in which he discussed an investigation that might have stopped the San Bernardino jihad attack… but was scuttled by Homeland Security brass for politically-correct reasons.

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The FBI has taken heat for failing to immediately classify the San Bernardino shootings as terrorism, but a new report shows that FBI reluctance could have been due to external pressure from the White House.

A source told Jack Murphy of SOFREP that the FBI instantly believed the shooting, which left 14 dead, to be a clear act of terrorism. The White House, however, didn’t feel the same way and quickly moved in to squash the terror classification.

This source added that as soon as the shooting took place, Obama convened a meeting with the National Security Council and the heads of other federal enforcement agencies to discuss a public relations strategy.

Part of the reason for trying to avoid the designation of the shootings as terrorism is because it threatens to upset the Obama administration’s strategy in Syria. A case of Islamic terrorism in the U.S. would put additional pressure on the administration to play a much more active role in the conflict.

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The religious director at the Islamic Center of Triplex says he was asked to resign following his public remarks supporting a proposal by Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, to temporarily ban travel for all Muslims coming into the U.S.

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Alsayyed said more than 100 imams have been asked to leave around Houston because of a galloping political agenda.  He claims they are being told to either support political correctness or leave.  Alsayyed told 12News a board member has vocally and financially supported democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

"We in this country as imams are getting unfair treatment when they are being forced to manufacture or go with some political campaigning and not considering the safety and peace of the people," Alsayyed said.

Alsayyed is a moderate Islamic scholar who has served not just in Beaumont's Triplex, but also in various teaching positions in the U.S. dating back to 1989.

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