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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
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Arctic W. Fox said:
I find it interesting that people's racism and xenophobia is enough to make them think they know how the global monetary system works.

ROTFLMMFAO@#MERIKKKA


Do you even have a point to make?

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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
Good job trying to explain the obvious, qman. But its shoveling shit against the tide, since there are none so blind as those who will not see. They will simply have to be outvoted and when pres trump fixes things, they will still bitch but will enjoy a better standard of living. Then of course they will try to give all the credit to obumble just as they blame obumble's fumbles on shrub.

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>You do realize that the President has limited power, don't you

You forget obumble's many instances of overreaching. "I have a pen and a phone" The dems look at the constitution as a minor hindrance to their commie plans.


I've pointed out his different over reach mistakes in great detail as opposed to vague claims as you make.  I'm obviously aware of his shortcomings.


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Arctic W. Fox] * 1
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Arctic W. Fox said:
I find it interesting that people's racism and xenophobia is enough to make them think they know how the global monetary system works.

ROTFLMMFAO@#MERIKKKA


Best post of the day ... by far.  Maybe of the entire month.  1,000 :thumbup:


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
You forget obumble's many instances of overreaching. "I have a pen and a phone" The dems look at the constitution as a minor hindrance to their commie plans.


Obama? The dems? 

If you look at this chart you will see that Obama has issued fewer executive orders than any president since Grover Cleveland.  That means fewer than GW Bush, Bush Sr., and Reagan:


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Sidestreet]
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None of which has anything to do with what I said. Typical left wing strawman.


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Stonehenge]
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Please do elaborate then, because it seemed pretty obvious to me that you were talking about executive orders.  That chart is, at the least, evidence to the contrary of your statement that Obama has "overreached" his authority in many instances.

Also you may want to look up the meaning of "straw man."

Edited by Sidestreet (09/11/15 08:27 AM)

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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Sidestreet]
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It may be "obvious" to you with your left wing bias but nowhere did I say executive orders, in fact I spoke of the dems having little regard for the constitution. To give a chart of such orders, even if correct which I do no assume, does not change the fact that obumble and the dems will flout the constitution any time they can get away with it. You might want to look up the definition of strawman yourself, sunshine.


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Stonehenge]
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My opinion on Trump running for President: ..lol k then.

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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge, your "arguments" aren't much more than ad hominem attacks and a refusal to acknowledge any source of data that you haven't hand-picked.  Your name-calling does not strengthen your position.

But just for fun, to what alleged overreaching are you referring?

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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Sidestreet]
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It's his memorandas that puts him over the top.


Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'
By issuing his directives as "memoranda" rather than executive orders, Obama has downplayed the extent of his executive actions.




http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/obama-presidential-memoranda-executive-orders/20191805/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/12/16/using-stealthy-tactic-obama-is-on-track-to-take-more-high-level-executive-actions-than-any-president-since-harry-truman/

The fact he only has four vetoes with both houses being GOP controlled tells us the republicans are total sellouts. Mitch McConnell and John Boehner wouldn't dare hand Barry something he would veto, so everything handed to him gets signed.


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Astral Pain]
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Astral Pain said:
The fact he only has four vetoes with both houses being GOP controlled tells us the republicans are total sellouts. Mitch McConnell and John Boehner wouldn't dare hand Barry something he would veto, so everything handed to him gets signed.


Or Obama is the total sellout.  He often tries to appease the Republican party, which is why an awful lot of Democrats dislike him.


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Obumble is your man, fal. You guys put him in the white house twice, it was not conservatives who did it.

AP, how does he get away with that? What is a memo and what force does it have? Or is it an executive order under a different name? He might call it a suggestion or a recipe for brownies and its still the same thing.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Stonehenge]
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It's an executive order under a different name but will draw less attention than an executive order would. Like the guy above and his chart proving to you that Obama doesn't take executive actions by looking only at his executive orders. The memos seem to be done with things he would like to keep out of the spotlight(gun control and amnesty) that an executive order would be under.

He has boasted about it in the past.
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“The truth is, even with all the actions I’ve taken this year, I’m issuing executive orders at the lowest rate in more than 100 years.  So it’s not clear how it is that Republicans didn’t seem to mind when President Bush took more executive actions than I did.”

–President Obama, speech in Austin, July 10, 2014


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“The history is that I have issued fewer executive actions than most of my predecessors, by a long shot. The difference is the response of Congress — and specifically the response of some of the Republicans…. If you ask historians, take a look at the track records of the modern presidency, I’ve actually been very restrained.”

–Obama, interview on ABC News’ “This Week,” Nov. 23, 2014



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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Astral Pain]
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How many more Trump threads do we need to create to talk about Obama?


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: The Ecstatic]
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haven't you heard dude? Obama rapes grandmothers and eats infant children in their cribs.  He is apparently the Muslim Anti-Christ, and he is single-handedly leading us all to our doom in a lake of fire.

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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: ballsalsa]
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The Ecstatic said:
How many more Trump threads do we need to create to talk about Obama?


I hear ya, but when a snarky Obamabot jumps in it needs to be dealt with immediately. 


ballsalsa said:
haven't you heard dude? Obama rapes grandmothers and eats infant children in their cribs.  He is apparently the Muslim Anti-Christ, and he is single-handedly leading us all to our doom in a lake of fire.


You really need to start a thread to address these concerns of yours. :awesomenod:


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Astral Pain]
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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Astral Pain]
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Astral Pain said:
The Ecstatic said:
How many more Trump threads do we need to create to talk about Obama?


I hear ya, but when a snarky Obamabot jumps in it needs to be dealt with immediately.


Who's that?


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: The Ecstatic]
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In this instance the person above who bumped this thread after 20 days with an Obama executive order graph. I think Obama has been used as a straw man in other threads when experience has been brought up against Trump.


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Re: The Reason Behind Trump's Support and Poll Numbers [Re: Astral Pain]
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Oh damn didn't even see the date disparity.


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