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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
You want the media to win it for you? Keep sitting on your hands and hoping the corporate media will hold the ruling class accountable. Wait for it


The media will give us Biden.  Fuck that.  That's why I'm saying I don't oppose investigating him for corruption.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Let's not forget that Turkey is part of NATO, has American nuclear weapons are in their country, and Turkey is allied with the US.  That makes it a little more difficult to determine with whom we should now work with.  :shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
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Found the video. It’s depicting a mass church murder. If it was my campaign shown at my property somebody would lose their job



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
The Ecstatic said:
You want the media to win it for you? Keep sitting on your hands and hoping the corporate media will hold the ruling class accountable. Wait for it


The media will give us Biden.  Fuck that.  That's why I'm saying I don't oppose investigating him for corruption.


Another example of media framing an issue completely wrong.

And yeah they want Biden, they’re just giving Liz the megaphone so she drowns our Bernie (they hope).

The point of my original comment is there’s only so much we can do to hold the media to account, the left makes gains by organizing outside of existing power structures. We should be promoting independent media and good journalists, but scolding Disney Corp for fake news probably doesn’t help the situation much. Ideally we get a bunch of people on both the left and right to denounce corporate media and create a media structure based explicitly around fact. In reality, all it’s done is cause Trump supporters to dig their heels in and trade Brian Williams’ lackluster credentials in for Ben Shapiro’s nonexistent credentials.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Let's not forget that Turkey is part of NATO, has American nuclear weapons are in their country, and Turkey is allied with the US.  That makes it a little more difficult to determine with whom we should now work with.  :shrug:


Reports coming out now that Trump wants to levy tough sanctions on turkey for invading northern Syria.

I’m calling bullshit for a bunch of the reasons you listed. But not only that, Trump is trying to save face. Rudy Giuliani will say some dumb shit on TV in a couple days and the media will forget all about the Kurds, and his base will be content with his apparent commitment to sanctions turkey at some point maybe in the future.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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That vid & commentary makes it look like this was made by donald's opposition.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: relic] * 2
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Just noticed today marks five years of shitposting here under this SN.

Carry on.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: relic] * 1
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:highfive:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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:birthday:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: relic] * 2
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Lol happy five year, relic.  :yaysugar:


Also, thought I should mention/remind people that Trump has an admitted "conflict of interest" with Turkey since he has a hotel built in Istanbul which very likely could have been nearly 100% of the reason for his decision regarding the Kurds. Occam's razor, these situations might not really be as complex as people try to make it seem imo. Trump is not a complicated person, I would say he's more like a 2-dimensional caricature of human corruption.

This seems to be why people like fal have taken to resorting to this convoluted argument style of trying to string together various excuses for siding with a particular point. It's just more cheap tricks to distract and deflect from the aspects that obviously need attention. Here's a tip, if someone feels that they need to exhibit the attitude of an asshole in order to make a point, it's just so they can bluff their way into making it "seem" like they're right. People have been doing this kind of shit since way before Trump but he's the main person who has made these problems so obvious.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
why not say "Here's some footage from the Knob Creek night shoot in Kentucky to show you want the attack against the Kurds might look like"


They made a mistake. Get over it.


Here's the apology from ABC with a little humor thrown in from Daily Mail:

Video which ABC News claimed was a Turkish attack on Syrian Kurds was actually footage from a 2017 weapons show in Kentucky


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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It's good they can admit when they're wrong, and it didn't take them for fucking ever to do it lol.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: feevers]
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feevers said:
qman said:
Are 60 million US citizens "fucked in the head" because they voted for Trump?


I'd say that far more than 60 million US citizens are fucked in the head. 60 million of the fucked in the head people just voted for Trump. Along with people lacking the cognitive capacity to understand that a billionaire with a history of lying and screwing everyone over may actually not really have their best interests at heart.



You don't know what's actually going on. This country was bought and sold a long time ago. What did Obama or any of these other Democrats do for are country? They didn't do shit! They promised a bunch of shit just like Bernie is doing then they did nothing but fuck us over. I always voted for Democrats in the past but I no longer believe ANYTHING they say. Trump is a giant middle finger to the government. That's why people voted for him! He's driving the government insane and that's what the people want. Its revenge to the system that's fucked us over time and time again.

Edited by Shenmue (10/15/19 06:48 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue] * 1
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Shenmue said:
You don't know what's actually going on. This country was bought and sold a long time ago. What did oboma or any of these other Democrats do for are country? They didn't do shit! They promised a bunch of shit just like Bernie is doing then they did nothing but fuck us over. I always voted for Democrats in the past but I no longer believe ANYTHING they say. Trump is a giant middle finger to the government. That's why people voted for him! He's driving the government insane and that's what the people want. Its revenge to the system that's fucked us over time and time again.


I agree with you, except that Bernie is like "Obama and any of these other Democrats".  Too much history on Bernie says you're wrong.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Yeah and people said the same shit about Obama. That he's different and wants to fight the system and all that other bullshit. People didn't vote for trump because they believe the shit he says or because they're evil. They voted for him to piss off the government! Don't you people understand that!? We want to destroy the system! We want a trump bomb to go in there and destroy everything! That's why he won and that's why he's going to win again.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue]
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Shenmue said:
Yeah and people said the same shit about Obama. That he's different and wants to fight the system and all that other bullshit.


Source, or make believe?

Regardless, Bernie has a track record that Obama never had.

Shenmue said:
People didn't vote for trump because they believe the shit he says or because they're evil. They voted for him to piss off the government! Don't you people understand that!? We want to destroy the system! We want a trump bomb to go in there and destroy everything! That's why he won and that's why he's going to win again.


I understand, and that's the part I agreed with you on.  But we can do better.


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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (10/15/19 07:12 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I hate it when people reply asking for a source. Fucking stupid.. as if people wasn't saying great things about Obama when he was running for president lmao! Yeah I'm making it up :lol:..

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue]
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I guess they voted for Obama just for the fun of it lol. Glad you're here to clear that up...

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue]
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Shenmue said:
I hate it when people reply asking for a source. Fucking stupid.. as if people wasn't saying great things about Obama when he was running for president lmao! Yeah I'm making it up :lol:..


Of course they were saying great things.  But was anyone saying Obama "wants to fight the system"?  That's what I wanted a source for because I've never heard that.

Shenmue said:
I guess they voted for Obama just for the fun of it lol. Glad you're here to clear that up...


Hopefully the reply above cleared that up.  :shake:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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That's the only reason you vote for anyone! Jesus christ! Are you high lmao!

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