Seriously_trippin said:

qman said:

christopera said:

Lol that’s a pathetic point of view. “It wasn’t their fault, they wouldn’t have killed a woman if women hadn’t shown up.”

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Nice strawman, nobody is making that claim. The point is that bad people were on both sides and were looking for violent confrontations. The "anti-protesters" initiated most of the violent confrontations, the MSM would never report that fact.

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There was only murderous intentions on one side though correct?

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ballsalsa said:

According to xul white nationalists are just nice guys that don't want to see brown or black skinned folk around anymore.  Apparently that has nothing to do with white supremacy.

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christopera said:

They are fantasizing about how more white supremacists were hurt in this very thread. They saw it online. Of course there aren’t any convictions, police reports, or proof that what they say is anything more than a fantasy. Being apologetic for domestic terrorism must really be comforting.

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Metoo said:

koods said:

He said there were good people on both sides. One side was all white supremacists. It was a white supremacist rally.

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Are you saying that not a single genuine protester - for example someone who would prefer to leave the statue as a reminder of the painful past - was there? What research have you done to arrive at this conclusion? Please be specific

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koods said:

Metoo said:

koods said:

He said there were good people on both sides. One side was all white supremacists. It was a white supremacist rally.

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Are you saying that not a single genuine protester - for example someone who would prefer to leave the statue as a reminder of the painful past - was there? What research have you done to arrive at this conclusion? Please be specific

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Is that a serious question?

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koods said:

Metoo said:

koods said:

He said there were good people on both sides. One side was all white supremacists. It was a white supremacist rally.

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Are you saying that not a single genuine protester - for example someone who would prefer to leave the statue as a reminder of the painful past - was there? What research have you done to arrive at this conclusion? Please be specific

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Is that a serious question?

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qman said:

christopera said:

They are fantasizing about how more white supremacists were hurt in this very thread. They saw it online. Of course there aren’t any convictions, police reports, or proof that what they say is anything more than a fantasy. Being apologetic for domestic terrorism must really be comforting.

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Acknowledging that there was violence initiated by both sides isn't a fantasy, it's a fact. Also, that acknowledgement isn't being apologetic for violent acts.

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koods said:

It was a white supramacist rally. I can’t tell you the personal motivations of the protesters on that side, but if you are supporting the cause then you are not a good person.

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christopera said:

qman said:

christopera said:

They are fantasizing about how more white supremacists were hurt in this very thread. They saw it online. Of course there aren’t any convictions, police reports, or proof that what they say is anything more than a fantasy. Being apologetic for domestic terrorism must really be comforting.

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Acknowledging that there was violence initiated by both sides isn't a fantasy, it's a fact. Also, that acknowledgement isn't being apologetic for violent acts.

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Where those police reports?

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Every act of violence has a police report, that's news to me? 

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it is actually an interesting question to consider
what if the crowd was all white supremacists, except 1 single genuine protester, and 1 crazy maniac with murderous intentions

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they think that we should leave statues in place as a record of history, including its painful episodes
they kissed their first sweetheart under it in 1937
the guy on the horse looks cool - who is he, actually?

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koods said:

No common sense says if you go to a white supremacist rally then you are not a “fine person”

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Metoo said:

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it is actually an interesting question to consider
what if the crowd was all white supremacists, except 1 single genuine protester, and 1 crazy maniac with murderous intentions

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Or, even more likely, the usual diverse mix of motivations. Some genuine white supremacists, some random anarchists, some selfie hunters and with a sprinkling of people who simply did not want to see the statue removed, for reasons like:

• they think that we should leave statues in place as a record of history, including its painful episodes
  
• they kissed their first sweetheart under it in 1937
  
• the guy on the horse looks cool - who is he, actually?
  

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koods said:

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they think that we should leave statues in place as a record of history, including its painful episodes
they kissed their first sweetheart under it in 1937
the guy on the horse looks cool - who is he, actually?

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If any of those things are your personal motivation, you don’t demonstrate those opinions by participating in a white supremacist rally.

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Metoo said:

koods said:

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they think that we should leave statues in place as a record of history, including its painful episodes
they kissed their first sweetheart under it in 1937
the guy on the horse looks cool - who is he, actually?

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If any of those things are your personal motivation, you don’t demonstrate those opinions by participating in a white supremacist rally.

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This event was not advertised as a white supremacist rally and some people who attended were not white supremacists. How do I know?

Scott Adams talked to one of them on his periscope podcast. A Jewish dude went with his family to march in support of leaving the statue in place, had no idea the neo-nazis would turn up, was horrified when they did. He sounded like a fine person.

Also, the day after the carnage there was a media clip of a short chat with someone who had attended. Same thing - liked the statue, wanted to keep it, did not know that violent idiots would turn up.

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Metoo said:

koods said:

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they think that we should leave statues in place as a record of history, including its painful episodes
they kissed their first sweetheart under it in 1937
the guy on the horse looks cool - who is he, actually?

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If any of those things are your personal motivation, you don’t demonstrate those opinions by participating in a white supremacist rally.

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This event was not advertised as a white supremacist rally and some people who attended were not white supremacists. How do I know?

Scott Adams talked to one of them on his periscope podcast. A Jewish dude went with his family to march in support of leaving the statue in place, had no idea the neo-nazis would turn up, was horrified when they did. He sounded like a fine person.

Also, the day after the carnage there was a media clip of a short chat with someone who had attended. Same thing - liked the statue, wanted to keep it, did not know that violent idiots would turn up.

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