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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: Icelander]
    #8554530 - 06/23/08 01:53 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

ha ha you can pee into the wind dont pee against the wind silly. then it will hit you. when your peeing with the breeze the pee flys with it meaning your back is turned to it.  i agree not to pee on your knee tho.

also i guess it fails kinda cause when it comes down to it, it means the social sturcture isnt perfect as where the pigmi poeple werea and they were a tribe that didnt need a medicine man just the old tribal bong. they managed their shit together rather then being divided and having a person responsible for their health they all took it in on their own


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OfflineAlma Mistica
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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: Icelander]
    #8555913 - 06/23/08 08:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Is this whole discussion really necessary?
Wasn't shamanism used to heal spiritually rather than physically?

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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: Alma Mistica]
    #8556158 - 06/23/08 09:05 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

not at all its to heal both. also on that point physical problems happen cause physical ones either past or present. Take for example headaches or tension in the body. Your soul cries out to you in the form of that pain. a shaman can talk to you and give you ointment to relax those muscles and also to you why those muscles were so tense and what thats related to and then can help them heal the psychological issuse.

from there one can summerize that if you have a physical injury that in another area is of a similar nature cept you walked into it rather then your body walking you thru it. Its a bit hard to explain that i guess.


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? *DELETED* [Re: Icelander]
    #8556480 - 06/23/08 10:35 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #8556911 - 06/24/08 01:24 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

whats jim corce have to do with that, if anything about spiting in the wind its simliar to pissing on it just make sure when it goes down stream you dont hit anyone else or you will have a pissed off or spiten person. unleas your doing it for spite then i guess its alright but it makes you not that great of a person unless they are into strange shit like that then its your lover


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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InvisibleCactilove
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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: Swami]
    #14075733 - 03/06/11 01:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Reading through these post almost offended me but definitely saddened me. Shamans have survived through the passing down of knowledge longer than most today's religions if not all of them. I know shamanism isn't actually a religion but I don't see how shamanism has failed. Many tribes survived the horrible injustices done on to them by the europeans. Also these tribes helped our western medicine get where it is today. Many plants that shamans have used have been identified and important chemicals have been isolated from them and turned into modernized medicine. IMO the doctors and nurses today may have surpassed  the physical healing powers of the traditional shaman but have forgotten the equally important spiritual healing process that the traditional medicine man posses. What kind of doctor will heal your spiritual problems these days? Only the shaman. One more thing I would like to add is that many people still practice shamanism in today's modern society. They are all around you. You just need to look closer and you will find that shamans are alive and well and still protect our communities.


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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14075739 - 03/06/11 01:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Please don't squeeze the Shaman.:thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14075798 - 03/06/11 02:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Many tribes survived the horrible injustices done on to them by the europeans.




Many Europeans survived the horrible injustices done on to them by the tribes.

Many tribes survived the horrible injustices done on to them by the other tribes.


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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14076143 - 03/06/11 03:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

OC what was that book about a bloke who did a shamanic apprentice you were saying about awhile back and how was it if you read it?


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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14076171 - 03/06/11 03:37 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Are you talking about the video "The Shaman's Apprentice"?

http://mirandaproductions.com/shaman/


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InvisibleCactilove
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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14081303 - 03/07/11 02:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I agree it goes both ways  but to say that europeons didn't do anything to the natives is plain ignorance

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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14081550 - 03/07/11 02:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Huh?

Either way, how is a tribe getting its ass kicked into near or non-existence not a failure?


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InvisibleCactilove
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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14084308 - 03/07/11 11:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

It's a failure for the assholes that destroyed a rich and beautiful culture. Just as great of loss to them as it is to the native people.


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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14084332 - 03/07/11 11:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The Native tribes that survived before the evil White Man arrived did so often at the expense of weaker or more peaceful tribes that no one has heard of because they were wiped out.

Get mad all you want at The Great Spirit, but that is how life works. You are here because your ancestors kicked ass.


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Re: Why did Shamanism fail? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #14087635 - 03/08/11 04:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

All I'm sayin is that if some mother fuckers no matter what skin color came to my land and tried to start some shit I would try and put and end to it.


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