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 Re: Neo-shamanism  [Re: Icelander]
#4928380 - 11/13/05 09:03 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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No...but other people think so. I would rather just call myself Grand Poobah....maybe I will. I have a title now!
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Huehuecoyotl
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"The Grand Poobah of Time, Space, and Dimension"...I like it.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Your Supreme Royalnessness!  We who are about to die salute you.
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Neo-shamanism [Re: Icelander]
#4928404 - 11/13/05 09:19 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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We are all about to die...so I must be important.
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 TheQueen
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In a way, each and every person is a shaman- because each one of us is given the strength to use the imagination mussel. No matter the task, we can be creative with our doings. This is the fundamental power of growth, as was already said, one's personal experience in self discovery.
The imitators are soon found out by their lack of experience on 3 plains- Upper Middle Higher. You can't know dark without light, pleasure without pain, nor courage without regret. These extremes teach us how to see the bad in the good, and good in the unfortunate. Again, i say art is a sure sign of someone who is on the path of self discovery. Creativity pushes us to learn that our external environment is part of who they are- what they are- and learning how the physicle is connected to the spiritual, and how to maintain communication between the two. The ability to activate the inner verse, leads to the ability to activate the outer; making good things happen, i think, no matter what medium our attention manipulates- simply because it shows the rest of us the possibility of doing the same in our own way.
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Re: Neo-shamanism [Re: TheQueen]
#4928454 - 11/13/05 09:57 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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imagination mussel
New shamanic term alert. 
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Neo-shamanism [Re: Icelander]
#4929213 - 11/13/05 03:13 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think a shaman is basicly like a pioneer of the mind.
a person who has the guts to go boldly where no1 else dares to
go and comes back with interesting exotic gifts to inspire the rest
of us.
the main difference between the shaman and the neo shaman imo is
the fact that nobody listens to us.
the traditional shaman had the respect and admiration of the community, and they have well developed traditions etc.
but they were not anywhere near in as good a position to
gain understanding of things as we are with all these technological
resources.
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Huehuecoyotl
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I would think that the goal would be to do more than "inspire". How about healing the self, the community, and the planet?
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Using your influence to save the planet is what it is all about. One person alone has little real influence, but the combined efforts of 5000 to 10,000 acid shamen should eventually do the trick. Always try to put something of yourself that is substantial into your works and relationships, and pass that love on to your children so that it grows in a viral fashion.
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Icelander
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IF the planet really needs saving. That is some of the best advice I've heard.
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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TheQueen
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thats right- i like to think of art as the virus of illumination infecting the system.... of the rock boned body, status quo capitalistic witless sperm germs, fucking like rabbits to feed and secure the future of ignorance. There are many acid shamans coming into play by the way, i think i would be considered one; we see the effects of that new breed of person arising in the most casual circumstances. take Mario Cart's adventure, on super NES. thats sort of how an artfull being travels from pillar to pillar- following a specific path, with many obstacles along the way, gathering coins of info for more points at the finish line- you don't exactly have to be first to win, but the 1 place winner has sure fine experience on that level and is regarded as a master of the realm hahaha
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Re: Neo-shamanism [Re: Icelander]
#4930611 - 11/13/05 10:20 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think since no one really has a clue what this life is for. Following your own path is quite valid. What do you think?
I agree. I think your own path is the only way to go. Someone elses path is there own. Take pointers from someone else, but live in the reality given to you. Since we all veiw reality differently, soneone else path will lead somewhere different. Just mt POV from behind these two eyes.
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Re: Neo-shamanism [Re: Icelander]
#4930750 - 11/13/05 10:53 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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The planet always needs saving...and it always has.
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What makes you say that? Humans feel that they need saving, but the earth has always survived the loss of some life forms. What are we saving her from and what are we saving her for?
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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Neo-shamanism [Re: Icelander]
#4930795 - 11/13/05 11:05 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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"the earth has always survived the loss of some life forms"
Yeah, but I mean that we should make it where it doesn't kick us off.
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Wouldn't it really be ourselves kicking ourselves off. Ourselves need saving from ourselves. 
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Re: Neo-shamanism [Re: Cherk]
#4930820 - 11/13/05 11:11 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Correct, but I am not in my right mind. So, change everything I said to agree with you and you got it.
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The left mind needs company too! 
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There is no way to guarantee that. And humans haven't always been on earth as far as we know. You said earth always needs saving.
So maybe Hue we need to save ourselves. The earth my not have anything to worry about.
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Neo-shamanism [Re: Icelander]
#4930837 - 11/13/05 11:16 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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O.K. Then that is what I said...or meant to say.
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