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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: thedudenj]
    #7087250 - 06/24/07 03:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

What about Asian Shamanism? Did that exist in a form? How does it differ?

I'm thinking what a Shaman is is more subjective than objective.



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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7087282 - 06/24/07 03:48 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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I have myndfuck names!




You have what?

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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7087308 - 06/24/07 03:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

It's called a dynamic signature! It's random everytime.




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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7087756 - 06/24/07 05:30 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

well the only differnace between any shaman is thier location and age and memory


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7088983 - 06/25/07 12:05 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
What the fuck is a shaman? :what:




if i tell you, you will not know

the true definition lies within the subjectivity of experience

that is, not a definition based on a conceptual framework, rather a collection of experiences that build on to an intuitive understanding

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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: thedudenj]
    #7088994 - 06/25/07 12:08 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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thedudenj said:
well the only differnace between any shaman is thier location and age and memory




and most importantly,

experience


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: onlynow]
    #7089007 - 06/25/07 12:11 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

lol i would more so say death shamans are death!


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: thedudenj]
    #7089027 - 06/25/07 12:18 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i have died

or have i?

how far does death go?


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7089047 - 06/25/07 12:26 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Most self-proclaiming Shamans are fulla shit, I've found.


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7089131 - 06/25/07 12:52 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

maybe we all have an inner-shaman that just needs one to find. whether one cares about their self more than the outer world is the main question.

people bring so much prestige to the title of "shaman"... You could call yourself Jesus, moses, shiva, vishna, buddha.. whatever.. they, to me, seem like people that have shamanistic whatever. just different styles

but fuck I don't know, just sounds good.


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Cracka_X]
    #7090109 - 06/25/07 10:19 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

This is a very complex topic. I'm also Captain Obvious.

I think though, more often than not, what Shaman is to someone, is very subjective...My shaman might be your preacher.




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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7090940 - 06/25/07 03:43 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

If: Crossed the boarders to death. Initiation. Truthful path. Healing balance. Melted Self into One. Muchas more.
Then: Maybe comes into range of possibility.
Ugh.
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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7095166 - 06/26/07 04:46 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I think I met a guy last night that met most of my criteria for being a shaman. I know a bit about the subject, and he fell right in line with my view of the true warrior\shaman. He did not call himself one or attempt to sell himself in any way, he was just hanging out passing the time of day, but it was very obvious that this guy was different from a lot of the weirdos I have met...as a matter of fact he wasn't really a flake or weirdo at all.

My reaction was to engage him in a conversation.


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7095191 - 06/26/07 04:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

So what happened?


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7095196 - 06/26/07 04:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The shaman turned Hue into a crow, and so he is currently "hunt-and-pecking" his posts.  :lol:


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7095212 - 06/26/07 04:56 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I asked about his views on life and his spiritual practice. He said that if you are ready to die you can do anything you want. I said "Anything you want literally?" He said "Yeah...anything you want." This was one of the major things I learned. I am told by his peers that he lives his word.


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Veritas]
    #7095218 - 06/26/07 04:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Well I am typing one handed for sure. :smile: Never was much of typer...only a coder.


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7095225 - 06/26/07 04:59 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:  Watch it, Hue, "typing one-handed" usually has another implication.  :naughty:


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Veritas]
    #7095232 - 06/26/07 05:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Only that he is lazy because he is laying in the floor.


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Re: Your reaction to a Shaman in real life+Shamanic Questions [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7095240 - 06/26/07 05:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

"He" is lazy?  :confused: Are you referring to yourself in the third person now?  Hmmm...perhaps a side-effect of squeezing the shaman?


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