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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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No God ? I don't think so.
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Religion, mysticism, and spirituality offer so many ways for God to exist, but science only gives one, why God doesn't. Alot of you on here may not think there is a God, nor an existence after death, and I've learned alot in the last two months since I started posting on here, but my firm belief that there is a force, which is both creative and destructive, chaotic and ordered, has not been dented. I may be ignorant and / or deluded, maybe even unable to face the 'truth', but I don't think so. I have a mind for a reason, nature doesn't do excess, and that's what the human mind is, excessive.


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The arrogant cat stalks the humble mouse, the self important dog chases away the cat and is in turn unable to stand it's ground against the Proud lion. Then the lion is almost trampled underfoot of the enlightened elephant, who surprisingly and paradoxically yields to the humble mouse.

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: Brainstem]
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Alot of you on here may not think there is a God, nor an existence after death, and I've learned alot in the last two months since I started posting on here

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Have you recently died?

All God threads are totally retarded for the simple reason that there is never a clear definition.


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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Alot of you on here may not think there is a God, nor an existence after death, and I've learned alot in the last two months since I started posting on here

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Have you recently died?

All God threads are totally retarded for the simple reason that there is never a clear definition.



QFT

OP you should accept that there are things out of human comprehension. Yes you have a mind but your mind is not almighty. Your mind evolved on earth, not in the "afterlife" nor is there any signature on your mind indicating it was made by god.

Prooooooooooove it

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: Buckthorn]
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Well, he does have a 'firm belief' and people with a firm belief are never, ever wrong. :nonono:


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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Clear definition ? A force which is creative (order out of chaos) and destructive (chaotic breakdown of order). I would of thought we could dispense with the bearded patriarch by now.


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The arrogant cat stalks the humble mouse, the self important dog chases away the cat and is in turn unable to stand it's ground against the Proud lion. Then the lion is almost trampled underfoot of the enlightened elephant, who surprisingly and paradoxically yields to the humble mouse.

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: Brainstem]
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Brainstem said:
Religion, mysticism, and spirituality offer so many ways for God to exist, but science only gives one, why God doesn't. Alot of you on here may not think there is a God, nor an existence after death, and I've learned alot in the last two months since I started posting on here, but my firm belief that there is a force, which is both creative and destructive, chaotic and ordered, has not been dented. I may be ignorant and / or deluded, maybe even unable to face the 'truth', but I don't think so. I have a mind for a reason, nature doesn't do excess, and that's what the human mind is, excessive.


This post is here because...?


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: Brainstem]
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Brainstem said:
but science only gives one, why God doesn't.


You don't know what you're talking about with this one. :shrug:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: Brainstem]
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I would of thought we could dispense with the bearded patriarch by now.


Why the strawman here?


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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: fireworks_god]
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You don't know what you're talking about with this one.


Seems you are implying he got one right in another thread...


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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Odd, right?


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: MushroomTrip]
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I like how he thinks that religions allow God to exist. This is declaration of imagination.

A 'real' God would not exist because a religion gave him permission to exist.


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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Isn't everything in our heads anyway?

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: Brainstem]
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Brainstem said:
but science only gives one, why God doesn't


Although it is often misinterpreted that way, science neither supports nor opposes the idea that there is a God. In fact, according to my idea of God, this universe IS God, and science is therefor a study of the nature of God. That's just me though.


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The creation takes hand of the chisel...

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: AngryPhil]
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AngryPhil said:
n fact, according to my idea of God, this universe IS God


It seems redundant to me. :grin:
Does qualifying the meaning of the word universe through the association with the word g*d add any sort of value or meaning in any way, according to your idea?


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
Does qualifying the meaning of the word universe through the association with the word g*d add any sort of value or meaning in any way, according to your idea?


yes... no... maybe :shrug:


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The creation takes hand of the chisel...

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: Brainstem]
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Brainstem said:
Clear definition ? A force which is creative (order out of chaos) and destructive (chaotic breakdown of order). I would of thought we could dispense with the bearded patriarch by now.



From an objective view point creation and destruction are the same. When omething is destroyed something else is created. When something is created something else is destroyed. Its just change, things are always changing.

Why do you call this change 'god'?

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: AngryPhil]
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AngryPhil said:
yes... no... maybe :shrug:


Am I to surmise that it's employment owes itself more to a certain emotional quality, then? :hehehe:
I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, but it can often be the case that we gravitate towards certain ways of expression as a means of expressing a feeling, and since you don't really seem to have a conceptual understanding as to why you make the association between these two words, it seems plausible. :wink:
If you think it's usage does have a foundation in representing a feeling, what do you think that feeling relates to?


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: fireworks_god]
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Shut up and go to bed!  :whip2:
You stoopid bunny! :suckit:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
AngryPhil said:
yes... no... maybe :shrug:


Am I to surmise that it's employment owes itself more to a certain emotional quality, then? :hehehe:
I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, but it can often be the case that we gravitate towards certain ways of expression as a means of expressing a feeling, and since you don't really seem to have a conceptual understanding as to why you make the association between these two words, it seems plausible. :wink:
If you think it's usage does have a foundation in representing a feeling, what do you think that feeling relates to?


I've mostly given up trying to explain my idea of God, both on these forums and to people in person. Don't mistake a lack of explaining for a lack of understanding.


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Re: No God ? I don't think so. [Re: Brainstem]
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Brainstem said:
Clear definition ? A force which is creative (order out of chaos) and destructive (chaotic breakdown of order).


Hey, I can do each of those things.  Does that make me god?  I think so.  :grin:

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