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Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer?
    #1158551 - 12/20/02 06:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1158565 - 12/20/02 06:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Enter, my friend, where have you been?!  Good to see you again! :smile:

What do you mean though, "Shouldn't you have an answer?"
I don't believe in God or any sort of afterlife. 
So to whom am I supposed to answer, and what is the question??

BTW... You're capitalized now... What happened?


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1158570 - 12/20/02 06:13 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I am as confused as Rebel.

What are you talking about as an answer?

I'd assume that someone thinking there is no god would be thinking there is no afterlife at all (=death is like the time before you were born, nothing), unless the person believes in some afterlife without a god.


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1158585 - 12/20/02 06:19 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Well well Enter or is it enter I forget which, how are you my fine fellow featherless biped?

It's been ever so long.  You were missed in a way that you will never know.

You say, "Being what I am"?  And what is that, pray tell?

Also, "even from name-calling shroomerites, the condescending, the angry, the other side of the polar."???

My my you do have a rather long list of ad hominems to chose from don't you?

Word to the wisest oh fair Eenter.

Read the "Be Nice" policy before you go too far awry.  :smile: 


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1158600 - 12/20/02 06:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

All responses welcome, even from name-calling shroomerites, the condescending, the angry, the other side of the polar.

Hey man, nobody here in this forum are angry name-callers. We are more like a family.

:wink: :smirk: :grin:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: Murex]
    #1158609 - 12/20/02 06:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

True dat, Murex!  :grin:


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: Murex]
    #1158630 - 12/20/02 06:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I find it interesting Murex that when we point a finger at someone three fingers are pointing back at ourselves. Isn't that remarkable?


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: ]
    #1158660 - 12/20/02 06:45 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

...my fine fellow featherless biped
:grin: :grin: :grin: 


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1158664 - 12/20/02 06:46 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

If you don't believe in God Himself, shouldn't you have an answer you can die by?



No, it's better to have something to live for.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: Evolving]
    #1158772 - 12/20/02 07:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Preach it my brotha!


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #1158795 - 12/20/02 07:36 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1158847 - 12/20/02 08:00 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I wonder how swiftly some of you have come to a conclusion about this subject when it proves to be the most necessary to know about.

Who proved it to be the most necessary to know about?

When I was younger, my parents never took me to church.  I don't even remember how I first learned about God or Christianity or any sort of religion... It must have been from friends or from somewhere along the lines at school.  As I got older, I decided to learn more about this concept of "God" and what religion was all about.  At one point, I actually considered myself a Christian.  I had been "converted," you might call it.

But after learning more about Christianity and what the Bible and God were really all about, I decided it just wasn't for me.  There were too many things wrong with the teachings, besides the fact that there is no proof whatsoever of God's existence.  I am a scientist.  I like proof.  I have learned many things that disprove God's existence, but nothing that proves it.

I believe that humans are nothing but smart animals that have developed as a result of evolution.  And the problem with us is just that; we are smart!  We like to experiment with things and figure things out.  We are curious.  We like to understand everything about the world around us.  We ponder concepts and ideas like those of life and death.  And when it comes to concepts like these, which we really have no complete understanding of, we get scared.

It is my opinion that all religions and all Gods are just imaginary things created by men in order to explain the unexplainable.  They were invented by humans for the sole purpose of allaying our fears.  We don't have to fear death anymore because there is a "God" and if we believe in Him and worship Him and do what He says, then we will go to "Heaven."

You know what I have to say about that?  Cow patties! :smile:

I don't need a God or any religion.  I have myself.  I am a good person, I will live a good life, and then I will die.  And that's it!  I don't need the concept of "God" or "Heaven" to make me want to live a good life.  I am happy just living and being me.  There is nothing necessary about God to me at all.

The closest thing to a "God" that I have is Nature.  I will continue to worship her and serve her in any way I can, and I will be happy.  That's all I need.

-RebelSteve

P.S.  I hope that wasn't an "unoriginal response."

EDIT:  I am not trying to say in any way "God does not exist" or "Christians are evil" or anything like that.  If you have found God, and you are happy; I think that's great!  Good for you!

I am just saying that I am happy and perfectly fine without God in my life.


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Edited by RebelSteve33 (12/20/02 08:22 PM)


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1158881 - 12/20/02 08:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I plan on using the answer "42".....and giving the "high-sign"....  :tongue: :grin: :tongue:


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1158882 - 12/20/02 08:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

If you don't believe in God, it seems to me that you would have asked yourselves the questions that would disprove His existence.

I was raised Catholic and went to church every day, and yet even in the hight of my faith I was unable to find any proof that god existed.

When I gave up my religion I did not really give up my belief in something higher, some creator.

Then after a while I felt the need to find proof. So I asked God if he existed. I tried praying. I told him that I wanted to believe in him, that I wanted to know he was there. So I asked him to give me some proof. Not something I could miss. Not something small that I could brush aside. I told him that if he wanted me to believe in him...he had to give me some concrete proof and he had to do it soon. My last shreads of faith were beginning to crumble.

I got nothing.

If there is a god, he obviously doesn't care enough about what I think to give me the one thing I asked, and begged, of him.

So, not very swiftly, I've come to the conclusion that for now I just don't care if there is or isn't a god. The existence of god has no impact on my life. My actions are not guided by the fear of god, they are guided by my compassion and my need to see others happy.


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What you know you can't explain,
But you feel it;
You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
You don't know what it is, but it's there....
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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1158898 - 12/20/02 08:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

There are many Gods
Each one the true god to each individual
Some don't have one
Only one truth exists


In the words of MJK- "Fuck your God!"


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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    #1158973 - 12/20/02 09:09 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: Murex]
    #1158994 - 12/20/02 09:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Now Murex, don't tempt Eenter. None of us want to see him get angry or sulky.

He is here to teach us the truth. And he loves each and everyone of us.

Such a good Christian is Eenter.


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: ]
    #1159008 - 12/20/02 09:18 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I was going to direct your attention to the "Be Nice" Policy, Plato, but I think I just realized why the "Be Nice" part of it is in quotes! :wink:  :laugh: 


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1159017 - 12/20/02 09:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I am always nice Steve.  I just didn't want poor Eenter to get upset because someone said:

FUCK YOUR GOD!

Just trying to keep the peace, that's all.  :smile:


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: ]
    #1159036 - 12/20/02 09:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Maynard said it, not me.  :tongue:

And it wasn't directed twoards anyone.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



Edited by Murex (12/20/02 09:29 PM)


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