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Offlinedumlovesyou
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CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF?
    #614566 - 04/21/02 09:23 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Hi there!
I was wondering how many of us can control themselves. All people say humans are not animals and stuff. I cannot control myself much!! If my body wants to smoke, eat, listen to music, read, sleep, I have to do them!!! I can think nothing but my head wants. I cannot focus on something very much because my head will start to hurt. I always thought and I am still thinking that whatever you put in mind it's going to happen in the future. How can I control what I put in my brain? Every time I want to focus on something my mind starts to trip in other places, things i have done before, people I know or even something that has aparently no connection to the reallity. Any of have this OWN MIND CONTROL problem? Or anything similar? Or this is something normal??


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #614732 - 04/21/02 01:19 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

It sounds like you need to do push-ups, Just force yourself to do as many push ups as you can, till you get to about 1000 a day, then everthing will seem easy!

"Be all that you can be" "By not being in the militarie"


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #615111 - 04/21/02 10:56 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

What you have to do is exercise your will.
Think of it as a muscle that grows weaker when unused.
Today think of something you normally can't resist. Ok?
And just simply don't give in to the impulse at the moment it is felt.
You can even admit you will eventually do it. But you have at least taken some energy away from that impulse. No effort is ever wasted.
That one action has increased your self-control in a small way that you can build on.

I know what you mean about the body having wishes of its own.
I crash on a friends couch from time to time, and when he first wakes up he always smokes several cigarettes before his mind has even woken up. To me it's creepy because its like he isn't home in his own body..someone else is taking advantage while the dweller in the house is away.


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #615115 - 04/21/02 10:59 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

This is a great question.
And I think it comes down to a fundamental question - THE fundamental question of Who is running this thing we call 'I'? What am 'I' composed of? Is it the mind? I know I do not have any control over the thoughts I have in my mind. some actions are born of a biological need or a conditioned behavior. And there are the times when i feel a desire to do something but i refrain. Either way it is thoughts governing my action. So it always seems to be the mind
But the question is WHO is behind the mind?

Peace


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: Jellric]
    #615334 - 04/22/02 07:31 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

  Hehehe.. 1000 pushups.. Difficult task for me. I started going to gym sometime ago. IT was very difficult. This sure is a very strong mind exercise.
  Yes, I know what you mean... I do efforts hehe to stop smoking weed. It's not difficult, but i want to smoke very much!! :smile: The thing is that I always end up smoking after 2-3 weeks. That moment I say to myself that it's good to smoke, why should I not... :smile:  Don't you have this problem??


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #615339 - 04/22/02 07:38 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

try thinking of your body as a pet monkey.
it has needs and desires that should be catered for - rest, food, cleanliness, exercise (mental and physical), sex...
but like any pet, it shouldnt be spoilt and a bit of discipline is necessary.
a sound spanking when the time is right should do the trick!


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: JPAtanat]
    #615341 - 04/22/02 07:39 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

As scientists say, we use only 5% of our brain. So I think this is used for our everyday activities. But if this body is ours why cannot we control it?? I mean why do we have ils and deaseses? Why cannot we cure ourselvs?? It's like living in something that we don't know what it is. If there was no science or religions we wouldn't have known what's inside our bodies. I think that normaly the man had to have control of all his internal organs!! And the man has this power, but doesn't develop it!


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #615347 - 04/22/02 07:46 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

5% now, is it?


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InvisiblePynchon
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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #615355 - 04/22/02 07:59 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

5...

4...

3...

2...

1...

SWAMI!


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: Pynchon]
    #615378 - 04/22/02 08:35 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

See what I have to put up with? We must cover the same old tired ground again and again...

Pynchon, you could have helped out, but NoooOOooOO - let the Swam do ALL of the dirty work.

The 10%(5%) of brain usage is total myth. We utilize 100% of our brains. PERIOD. Every neuron in your pumpkin head fires some of the time, but a maximum of 10% of neurons may fire at the same time.

Please do not confuse usage with creative potential...


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: Swami]
    #615498 - 04/22/02 11:23 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

You don't HAVE to put up with anything, Swami (not here anyway).


Peace.


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: Swami]
    #615535 - 04/22/02 12:14 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Dirty work? hehe
I don't think it's total myth, actually i belive we use less! I don't say all of the brain is working, but HOW much of it you CONTROL??
    Can you help me with this?  "But if this body is ours why cannot we control it?? I mean why do we have ils and deaseses? Why cannot we cure ourselvs?"
    If you know fundamental truths abut ourselvs then we can do anything, but we know shit. :smile:
   


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #615708 - 04/20/02 09:41 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I can't control myself when I see an irrational post.


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: Swami]
    #616003 - 04/23/02 02:00 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I just put some questions. If you don't know what to say don't write anything. Anyway, thank you for your wise answers..


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #616052 - 04/23/02 04:40 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

dumlovesyou, was it really that annoying for you to learn that:
"Every neuron in your pumpkin head fires some of the time, but a maximum of 10% of neurons may fire at the same time." ???


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: raytrace]
    #616134 - 04/23/02 07:39 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

That's a thing i might admit, but I wanted answers for other questions. I just need some explanaitons, nothing else. I think I can admit if I am wrong, of course with some explain. I have no problem with this, but how if i write to your post how irrational is, with no explain.


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #616192 - 04/23/02 09:14 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

If you're under 35.....it could be your frontal lobes......they handle rational thought and control impulsivity.....


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: raytrace]
    #616263 - 04/23/02 10:39 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Go over to General Questions and see how many drug myths MUST be debunked time after time because falsehoods are repeated (blotter acid contains strychnine, LSD stays in your spinal fluid, marijuana is a stepping-stone drug, etc.). It is OK to try to stop those myths, but on here I am rebuked for trying to destroy modern fables.


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: Tannis]
    #616264 - 04/23/02 10:41 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

If you're under 35.....it could be your frontal lobes......they handle rational thought and control impulsivity.....
Hey, I stopped far short of hinting at a lobotomy...


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Re: CAN YOU CONTROL YOURSELF? [Re: Swami]
    #616267 - 04/23/02 10:45 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Drug myths are much different from Philosophies and Spiritual revelations.


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