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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: MycoCat]
    #2087620 - 11/09/03 09:30 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

The only true word of God I?ve ever seen is this:


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2087630 - 11/09/03 09:35 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

i dont think supermarket is angry but just surprised, i know i was when i found out how closed minded and brainwashed a Philosophy forum can be.


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: Spokesman]
    #2087636 - 11/09/03 09:37 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Please, spare me.

Why is the forum brainwashed, because they don't believe what you believe? That sounds pretty close minded to me, not the other way around.


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: Spokesman]
    #2087645 - 11/09/03 09:41 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Perhaps, but these are extrodinary claims. Just to say that his opinion is verified through the existance of these so called "dead sea scrolls" says nothing. What if I said I found some "scrolls" in my backyard that prove that I myself am Jesus Christ? How "open minded" would YOU be sir?


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: Le_Canard]
    #2087666 - 11/09/03 09:51 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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I learned that the Bible was the biggest fraud and fallicy in print today, probably ranking up there with zetatalk.com!




Its my understanding the much of the dead sea scrolls provide validation for many parts of the cannonized bible. If you subscribe to the dead sea scrolls how can you say the bible is a complete fraud? Must you not accept some amount of truth in it if you put any validity in the scrolls?

As far as jesus being a vegetarian I'm curious what you base that on. Many people says jesus was a vegetarian and quote verses that have nothing to do with the consumption of meat. I think its always important to look at verses in context and make sure someone isn't trying to prove their point by suggesting the meaning of a passage that may be vague.

As far as jesus being an extra-terestial, in some ways I would agree with you - Extra terresterial meaning not of this world. Jesus wasn't 100% human in the sense that he was the son of God, but I think historically we can sumise he was in human form. Heb. 4:15 says (although I know you don't believe the bible), "We do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin." so we I think its safe to say he was human form and was subject to temptation like a normal person. John heard his heartbeat as well, so I doubt he was any sort of alien animatronic device...

I think its a stretch to say Jesus was extraterestrial in the Alien ET sense because he was immaculately concieved. If you have any other information on this I'd be interested in hearing, but saying that you don't understand immaculate conception so he must be an alien seems sort of wierd to me.

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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #2087667 - 11/09/03 09:51 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Look, I just find it funny that people feel free to call others close minded and brainwashed when they bring up topics such as this, but then when they are asked to support their claims they don't respond.

If you can't support what you're saying then you shouldn't say it, unless you make it abundantly clear that it is your opinion rather than fact.


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: MycoCat]
    #2087837 - 11/09/03 10:44 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Well, yea I suppose those forum wasn't ready for Truth. That's fine.

Nothing is for sure, what I say could be wrong, but what we live in could also be a holographic projection (according to certain Physicists). So I guess it's a matter of what you believe.

Either way, I think when you actually read the sources I posted, INCLUDING the book, only then should you be able see I guess.

If someone told me bugs have 5 hearts instead of one..I might not believe them until I found it to be true. Same concept.



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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2087839 - 11/09/03 10:44 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Also, I am not here to participate in egotistical debate.

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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2087904 - 11/09/03 11:02 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Please get over yourself.

You can't present anything you know as truth, only opinion; just as any Christian cannot claim their religious beliefs are correct. So please gain some self prospective and realize that you don't know everything.


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2087959 - 11/09/03 11:16 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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supermarket said:
Well, yea I suppose those forum wasn't ready for Truth. That's fine.



Prove that it's the truth, and maybe I'll be ready for it.

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Nothing is for sure, what I say could be wrong, but what we live in could also be a holographic projection (according to certain Physicists). So I guess it's a matter of what you believe.



Then quit acting like you know for sure that it's the truth.

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Either way, I think when you actually read the sources I posted, INCLUDING the book, only then should you be able see I guess.



Do you have any evidence that there's any truth in what this book says?

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If someone told me bugs have 5 hearts instead of one..I might not believe them until I found it to be true. Same concept.



So you went back and time and confirmed that Jesus was, in fact, a half-alien vegetarian who believes in reincarnation? Interesting...

Tell me: In your studies of the Buddha, did you ever come across the part where he told his followers to question everything, including what he said?


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2087962 - 11/09/03 11:17 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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Also, I am not here to participate in egotistical debate.





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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2087966 - 11/09/03 11:17 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, in my travels to the past, Buddha did truthfully tell his followers to question every belief. he told them never take anything for granted, or believe in it without experiencing it.

Would you like the actual quote?

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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2087974 - 11/09/03 11:20 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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So you went back and time and confirmed that Jesus was, in fact, a half-alien vegetarian who believes in reincarnation? Interesting...





LMFAO.


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2087975 - 11/09/03 11:20 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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Would you like the actual quote?



No thanks. I'd just like you to follow his advice.


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2087980 - 11/09/03 11:22 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I also think it's funny you still have the same beliefs as when you were 11. Does that say something?


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2087990 - 11/09/03 11:23 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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Would you like the actual quote?



No thanks. I'd just like you to follow his advice.




I agree. You should always follow that belief as a way to find what is truthful or not.

However, once you come at truth, you no longer need to question it. Did buddha question his enlightenment everyday? No, because he had already achieved it.


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2087995 - 11/09/03 11:26 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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Well, yea I suppose those forum wasn't ready for Truth. That's fine.

Nothing is for sure, what I say could be wrong, but what we live in could also be a holographic projection (according to certain Physicists). So I guess it's a matter of what you believe.

Either way, I think when you actually read the sources I posted, INCLUDING the book, only then should you be able see I guess.

If someone told me bugs have 5 hearts instead of one..I might not believe them until I found it to be true. Same concept.







Dude, how can you tell whether or not we are ready for the truth when you aren't willing to provide any information. I'd be interested in any passages you have that pertain to jesus being an alien being, him being a vegetarian, or the entire bible being false....

Its pretty hard for anyone to believe you know "the truth" as you call it when it seems there are blatent inconsitencies in your condemenation or mainstream christianity. IE how can the claim the bible to be the biggest fraud if much of it is backed up by the text you base yourbeliefs on?

I'm not here to participate in an egotistical debate either, I'm just asking questions and would be intersted in specific information you have to support your claims. Doesn't seem like that would be too much to ask..

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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2088002 - 11/09/03 11:29 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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However, once you come at truth, you no longer need to question it. Did buddha question his enlightenment everyday? No, because he had already achieved it.



Knowing what I know of Buddha, he probably considered the possibility that he was not enlightened. You clearly have not shown that you know this to be the truth. You just read it in some book and decided you wanted to believe it. You say that the Bible is a crock of shit, but have you even considered that the same might be true of the Dead Sea Scrolls, or this book that claims to know what they mean?


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: georgewash]
    #2088003 - 11/09/03 11:29 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

It is too much to ask when he ask no specific information to support his claims that wouldn't be torn to shreds in a matter of minutes by anyone with any common sense or those with at least some basic understanding of modern religion.


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Re: The true followers of Jesus Christ were not Christian. [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2088051 - 11/09/03 11:39 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

BTW, please understand that I'm not just doing this to rag on your beliefs. If you want to believe in this, fine. But get down off your pedestal and discuss it logically, rather than condescendingly claiming that we're not ready for the so-called "truth." Some of us require a thing called "evidence."


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