Mr. Flappy Caps said:

Na only have one, use to have 2 but the other died. Anyway I saved all their shit for the past 2 years fugured I could use it when I was ready. I suppose I’m just going to give it a try and see how it turns out, I’ll make a thread so it’s on the site should be interesting.

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Mr. Flappy Caps said:

Quick question can’t find a thread on this one, do you think pans would be able to grow on guinea pig shit after you leech it and mix it- 60% manure, 40% verm, +5% gypsum?

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Blue Helix said:

Hey, I'm here for a bit if any of you still have any questions.  I'll stop in a few times more...

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Shomann said:

Hey guys. If I wanted to put a tub outside where the humidity is normally about 75-90% and day temperature through September was about 80-85°F and nights were about 60°-70°, would they still do well through the lower end of night temperatures?

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Asura said:

mary fairchild said:

Xerbia said:

Pan Bis here 4 days after casing. Let it consolidate for 10 days after fully colonizing.

How’s it looking?

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Looks like its been cased, looks good- now its wait and see time!

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Xerbia, that looks really good. Not that I know how to grow pans, I've just figured out lots
of ways not to grow them I like the wispy growth I am seeing through the casing and the moisture level.
I think you're going to have success with this.

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tryptkaloids said:

Shomann said:

Hey guys. If I wanted to put a tub outside where the humidity is normally about 75-90% and day temperature through September was about 80-85°F and nights were about 60°-70°, would they still do well through the lower end of night temperatures?

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My patch is doing alright (albeit slow) and its getting ibto the 40s at night. Last night was 48

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Sorry guys. I have a horrible habit of not paying attention to what thread I'm in

Shomann said:

What're you saying? That you were referring to a non-pan patch?

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fishermansjc said:

What is the lowest temp to get fruits at? Would low 70s do it?

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Germs said:

fishermansjc said:

What is the lowest temp to get fruits at? Would low 70s do it?

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For sure, my first Pan grows were done in my old apartment bedroom where I kept it less than 75 all the time

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Blue Helix said:

It's very exciting to see so many people growing Pan Cyans!  I love to grow them and will be presenting a few pictures of my latest grow soon.  Here are a few things I noticed that I think will aid people in getting good yields (I arbitrarily define this as greater than 50% biological efficiency which means you get 50% the weight of the dry substrate in fresh mushrooms). 

First this mushroom will only pin as good as you get the casing to colonize properly.  Pan cyans can have a tendency to overlay, which my up-and-coming thread will talk about and demonstrate what I think causes that.  In a nutshell, overlaid casings happen, I think, due to substrates that are too rich and strong genetics.  Here is a typical partially overlaid casing:



And while those trays did yield well, they lost about 60% of their potential yield due to overlay.  Here're they are:



So the questions might come up (a) what does a good casing run look like and (b) how do I achieve one?  Here is what a well-colonizing casing should look like around day 3 or 4 after laying it:



Notice in each case, the mycelium is running through the casing (often sort of whispy) but it's not forming mats of mycelium on the top.  This is what you want - through but not matting on top. 

How do you make that happen?  Well, first off you have to make sure your substrate isn't more than about 30% on a per dry weight basis grains.  You don't want to ever overfeed pan cyans because they'll just keep growing vegetatively if you do and tend to form overlay, which reduces the pin set.  Secondly, you need to keep the water level in the casing in a happy middle area - not too dry and not dripping wet either.  Third, make sure your casing mix does not contain anything that is nutritive.  A good example is coco coir which is a poor choice for casing Pan Cyans because it is simply too nutritive.

If you do all that, you can enjoy even pinsets and higher yields like in these grows of mine:

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OMG SO FANTASTIC...  I had to “the whole post as it deserves to be seen twice

Never new about the whispy aspect to look for after it’s been cased
I also never knew to keep it less than 30% grain,That’s been one of my big problems with overlay

I have three tubs of pan Australian on the third day fruiting now this is what they look like