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    #25563784 - 10/24/18 03:16 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Just got mine in the mail!

Who else got one?  What products catch your eye?


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: Sofaking420]
    #25563794 - 10/24/18 03:19 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

It's the price tags that catch my eye.

:lol:

I can't afford those mark ups.


Not saying it's not quality, but I can make equipment that performs similar tasks using supplies from home depot and pets mart.


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #25563818 - 10/24/18 03:24 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I like that they included a few pages on why they use mycelium in many of the products instead of fruitng bodies. Not sure I 100% buy it, but it does appear to be sound science according to the research out there.


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #25563824 - 10/24/18 03:26 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I can make equipment that performs similar tasks using supplies from home depot and pets mart.




*the performance is nowhere near stellar, or that of FP products, but it suits the needs for pennies on the dollar.


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: feevers]
    #25564212 - 10/24/18 05:25 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I also liked the section on pages 12/13.

The equipment they sell is expensive but like most things, you get what you pay for. The equipment seems geared more towards professional lab scenarios.

Im thinking about doing oysters, although i think i would purchase at hawkeyes.

The myco grow supplements intrigue me very much. Ive seen what voodoo /tarantula/ piranha juice can do for plants and if advanced nutrients can do it, i wonder how this compares.


Overall i feel this years catalog is much better then years past :toast: or im just stoned and excited


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: Sofaking420]
    #25564659 - 10/24/18 08:40 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I have purchased the  'oyster mushroom patch' as a gift, took a sample to agar and worked with the culture successfully for a few years. My friend totally neglected the patch/kit and still got mushrooms.

The only other things I bought were his inoculation loop -it's the best you can buy IMO, and I've used many different kinds and the F.P. loop is the best if you do lots of agar work; it is 7 bucks but worth it IMO. The anti-bacterial agar is pricey, but I keep it on hand for getting a clean dish from dirty (wild collected) spores.

Everything else can be purchased from other sources including Shroomery sponsors/vendors for less money. Support shroomery sponsors!


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: scarabaeus]
    #25564754 - 10/24/18 09:14 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Paul Stamets :thumbdown:
Pseudointellectual hack. Sells dayton blowers for a huge markup and purposefully doesn't put model numbers anywhere as if he's selling anything unique.
Made up that he cured his mom's cancer with turkey tail.
Sold RR bad spawn, threatened to sue RR after he told him about it.
Sells mycelium extract not fruit body extract.
Has his own research saying the mycelium is better than fruit bodies so that he can sell it to the ignorant and people with no critical thinking skills.
Rides on the coat tails of real mycologists.
Etc...


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25564791 - 10/24/18 09:24 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

This is one of the several things that pisses me off about P. Stamets. You can't blame a guy for making a living, but obliterating serial/model numbers so you can't get a reasonable price for a blower after ya do a bit of research is total BS. This guy will take a 5 buck T-shirt, stamp a half-assed mushroom image on it and charge you 20 bucks because it is 'Pauls pick', or 'staff pick'.

You can't deny the contributions this guy has made over the years, but generally speaking people like him piss me off -and I haven't even touched the surface.


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: scarabaeus]
    #25564804 - 10/24/18 09:32 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

His only contribution is getting people interested in mushrooms. Ill give him that.

Otherwise his ethic is deplorable
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Anyone who makes you sign a statement before buying a culture that you won't tell ANYONE where you got the culture is selling bunk, period.

In 2009 after I built our mushroom farm, I ordered a Portabella culture and a week after it arrived it was totally green with trichoderma, yet had never been opened or removed from the bag the test tube was shipped in.  I called to get a replacement and 'Jim' told me it must be because I'm inexperienced and screwed up the culture.  There would be no guarantee, and the 'contract' says if I told anyone it arrived contaminated they'd sue me.

So here's the bottom line Paul:  It arrived contaminated and your employees didn't make it right and wouldn't put you on the phone, so sue away.  I don't play games with unscrupulous vendors any more.  I thought I knew you better than that from our dealings in years past, but I was apparently mistaken.  With full knowledge that Vivian is terminally ill with cancer, you took my $150 dollars and sent me crap with no guarantee and then demanded my silence.  I could never in good conscience recommend anyone to order from you.

Aloha Medicinals has far superior and lower-age cultures(I love how you trademarked the term P-value :lol: ) which are commercially viable and you'll get a replacement even years later if you lose it.
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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25564812 - 10/24/18 09:38 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Any insight on why he can't talk about portabellos? Certainly it can't be purely because of agaritine.

Edit: Post 777! Surely I'm going to learn the secrets of portabellos this time! :yeahthatsright:


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25564819 - 10/24/18 09:40 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I can't argue your opinion Bodhi, it seems the more I hear about this guy, the more douchebaggery floats to the surface.


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: Zaid] * 1
    #25564833 - 10/24/18 09:45 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

To look cool.

Lots of stone fruit contain small amounts of cyanide(way more in the pits), there's no stone fruit or button mushroom mafia.
Also check this out
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis

Here is the most reasonable answer besides he's a dipstick
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Food libel laws, also known as food disparagement laws and informally as veggie libel laws, are laws passed in thirteen U.S. states that make it easier for food producers to sue their critics for libel. These thirteen states are Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota and Texas. Many of the food-disparagement laws establish a lower standard for civil liability and allow for punitive damages and attorney's fees for plaintiffs alone, regardless of the case's outcome.

These laws vary significantly from state to state, but food libel laws typically allow a food manufacturer or processor to sue a person or group who makes disparaging comments about their food products.





Millions of people eat them raw everyday and no clear link to cancer not even slightly causal.

He also said Portobello has no medicinal qualities at all. Despite producing no research to prove that and its scientifically ridiculous to say that without a mile long list of researching done on them.
Besides there's actually medicinally potentially valuable compounds in them and actual research about it to boot


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25564842 - 10/24/18 09:51 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

What kind of anti-first amendment bullshit is that? So he only shuts up because he's too big of a pansy to risk getting sued?

I feel cheated. :failure:

Thanks for the info though! :heart: Looks like I can finally make portabello burgers in peace again. To think I even told my mother to quit eating Agaricus mushrooms...


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: Zaid]
    #25564853 - 10/24/18 09:56 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I personally Eat them raw.

Pizza salad is amazing.

Spring mix, black olives(not chemically ripened and colored with iron), onion, pepperoni, banana peppers, mozz cheese preferably fresh buffalo, italian dressing
And raw buttons


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25564864 - 10/24/18 10:02 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Buttons always taste a bit bland to me unseasoned and raw. :shrug: I always opt for shiitake or oysters when I can. Enoki especially if I can find them.


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Re: New fungi perfecti catalog [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #25564927 - 10/24/18 10:28 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Re: Zaid. The presence of agaritine does not necessarily correlate to a cancer risk. There are other compounds in the mushroom which can negate any dangerous elements which may exist. Positive 1 + Negative 1 = zero.  There are dangerous components in everything we eat everyday. Damaging free radicals are countered by free radical scavengers in our daily diets. Health conscious people are correct in trying to tip the balance in favor of safer living, but isolating a single substance (like agaritine) from a food substance and making sketchy at best  claims without proper scientific process is just wrong.

There are 6,7 or 8 steps to the scientific method (depending on who is teaching what in what class), and it seems that P Stamets never heard of any of them. Anybody can run an experiment and publish a paper but that is far from scientific truth. A mycologist who cherry picks some data without understanding the scientific principles regarding lab controls and published papers AND peer review and on and on is just ignorant from a social standpoint, and negligent from a scientific standpoint. Not trying to lecture anybody -just adding my thoughts...


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