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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25473410 - 09/19/18 06:28 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Ok.  Thanks guys!

I will share my progress as a new Pan grower as I can.  Glad for all the support!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Cthulhu23]
    #25473476 - 09/19/18 06:50 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Good to know!  Is there any appreciable difference in using horse versus cow poo?  I’m more likely able to find pasture cow poo easily




Iv used both no real difference, the consistency of cow manure is a little finer but if you pasteurize it just use a pillow case. It worked the same for me both ways.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Changa Alchemist]
    #25473543 - 09/19/18 07:17 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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I've never used cow poo, but I'll tell you what I do know. Breaking up a cow patty compared to horse poo is gonna be messy and more difficult.



More messy, maybe. But its definately easier.
Basically, hpoo needs less verm or straw c poo needs more


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25473771 - 09/19/18 08:37 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Word. Like I said, I've never used it. I just thought about the "patty" they make in the field and it just makes me think of mud.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Changa Alchemist]
    #25474766 - 09/20/18 08:43 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Its definitely more muddy, just takes more fluff tho, as far as breaking it up by hand cpoo is much easier


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25475648 - 09/20/18 03:17 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I'm having set backs upon set backs. All my gtg transfers seem to show bacteria to varying degrees. I'm more scratching my head as to why. Perhaps mixing manure in with the rye was a bad idea? I thought the myc would appreciate it.
I've boxed up most of the spawn even though it had areas of bacteria. I'm getting frustrated, I have to admit.

I wait with baited breath to see if my LC inoculation worked. I would imagine it should be showing soon as it's been four days.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25475733 - 09/20/18 03:50 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Hey mullugh, that sucks.

Maybe your spawn is bad. I rushed a couple of my plates recently and it resulted in lacklustre results (poor yield, scrawny pale fruits, trich before the end of the first flush). However the lc I made from the plates I did a couple of further transfers from to ensure clean culture is producing beautiful fruits now.

It’s hard to identify where something goes wrong really unless it’s a massive noob blunder. Just keep working on it. I don’t know why adding manure to the rye would cause problems if the mix is not too wet and you’ve sterilized adequately, though you do not need to add manure to the rye to get pans so maybe next time keep it simple and leave it out and spawn to a pasteurized bulk substrate containing manure instead.

The method that BH and Mary outline is probably the simplest and has the fewest vectors for contamination. Pans grow so fast, just keep trying :sunny:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: space_shrooms]
    #25476840 - 09/21/18 12:27 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the encouragement aicaca. I think I'll try again by keeping it simple. The manure thing was an experiment and that's the nature of experiments. The annoying thing is that I used my one really good looking clean spawn for the gtg's and now it's almost all bacterial (one or two might be salvageable).
I'll totally keep trying and not put my eggs in one basket (having a few other cube grows going well is keeping me motivated).
I might try this bag technique then. Just need to check that my LC's are all good first :smile:
Really appreciate all the information and help here.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25484417 - 09/24/18 04:17 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)



Beautiful pans


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: space_shrooms]
    #25484520 - 09/24/18 06:46 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25484544 - 09/24/18 07:11 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Looking good, aicaca!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151]
    #25485706 - 09/24/18 03:24 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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interesting, I would have assumed soil to be contam city. But I suppose potting soil is typically pasteurized before bagging.

Just got a pan syringe and I refuse to fail this time as I always have in the past. Planning to do only cakes until I can at least get some backup prints.

Was going to do the macmerdin mix but now maybe I'll try some soil ones since I dislike sourcing manure. You recommend? First time you've done this or..?

Open to advice, internet access is so limited now its hard to do thorough research



If you can get some chicken poop or horse or cow poop you have more success,  I have used all 3 at separate times with excellent results, 50% poo, 40% coco coir 10% vermiculite works well.



I hadn't considered chicken. Have people used exclusively chicken manure with pans? I'll have to look that up after posting this, thanks a bunch.

My hens are willfull little bitches and come inside the garage to poop just to get back at me when they're mad.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25488161 - 09/25/18 01:53 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Hey, I've got what I think is good news and looks like this spawn has overcome the bacteria and run.

I want opinions on whether to case now or later and was considering vermiculite and a little sand mixed in.





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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25488259 - 09/25/18 02:34 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

That's a puss poor casing, i would rather go without. Im unsure about that tub


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25488268 - 09/25/18 02:38 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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That's a puss poor casing, i would rather go without. Im unsure about that tub



You in the wrong thread again?
Always case pans. Always


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Germs] * 1
    #25488284 - 09/25/18 02:43 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Goddamnit trypt! Pay attention. My bad guys


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25488303 - 09/25/18 02:49 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I only have vermiculite and maybe sand (people like it for tamps), I can't access peat moss.
Are you unsure of my box trypt or was that post for someone else?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25488310 - 09/25/18 02:50 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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I only have vermiculite and maybe sand (people like it for tamps), I can't access peat moss.
Are you unsure of my box trypt or was that post for someone else?



I would go get some cactus potting soil or perlite to case with before using sand.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25488311 - 09/25/18 02:51 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I didnt realize we weren't talking about cubes. Listen to germs bruh


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Germs]
    #25488312 - 09/25/18 02:51 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Perlite got truly dissed here earlier in the thread


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