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Newbie8998

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
#25368244 - 08/05/18 01:30 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I looked back and they did it’s Jamaica but ok maybe if I try a second flush and do a dunk and put in 80F or higher then they will do better?
Edited by Newbie8998 (08/05/18 01:34 PM)
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mary fairchild
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Newbie8998]
#25368376 - 08/05/18 02:44 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its possible, Jams like it warmer, maybe you can see improvement in the 2nd flush if you raise the temperature.
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Newbie8998

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
#25368390 - 08/05/18 02:51 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok thank you!
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Its All Energy
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
#25368783 - 08/05/18 06:34 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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mary fairchild said: Its possible, Jams like it warmer, maybe you can see improvement in the 2nd flush if you raise the temperature.
I've been growing Pan Jams and they fruit robustly in 74F, but they have a 10 gallon air pump in a shoebox full of water to help with air exchange and humidity. I do wonder if I'd have better results at a higher temp, but David Barlow said that that also causes contamination to set in faster. I also have to fruit colonized shoeboxes flipped upside down like a big cake since this is what currently gives me best results (side pins form, then I flip to let them mature, hoping I don't damage them). I think if the shoeboxes' sides weren't so high and restricting air flow I wouldn't need to do this. I need to find new fruiting trays that are the right size and shape.
On a side note, I got some Bisporus on agar right now because of you and MacMerdin finding Bisporus to be the strongest pan. Hope I can get a nice stash of pans going; I always eat them as fast as I can grow them.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Its All Energy]
#25368801 - 08/05/18 06:48 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AlexP]
#25369581 - 08/06/18 07:38 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dumped some lightly contaminated agar cakes in my backyard a couple of weeks ago and added some leftover PF cake mix (with cowpoo).
Today I discovered some progress: 

I think the recent rain and high humidity helped kick that off (or was it last nights earthquake ). Should I just let nature do it's thing or help them pull through by watering / misting? No rain all day today (nighttime now) and seems like it's going to be the same tomorrow.
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mary fairchild
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mashxp]
#25371928 - 08/07/18 08:29 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looking real cool!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
#25373455 - 08/07/18 08:38 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have 3 pan cyan aussie tubs – 2 shoeboxes and 1 17qt minimono.
– Spawn is WBS – Substrate is dehydrated hpoo; coarse verm 10–20% by volume; gypsum 5–10% per volume (as per RR recipe)
They were spawned 6 days ago. The mycelium recovered quickly, with white pufs of myc where the grains were, but it didn't seem to want to spread into the substrate with much vigor. Is it worth casing these and proceeding? I understand pan cyan aussie has more wispy mycelium, but these don't look good to me. There's also a lot of yellow liquid in places.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hazelnut]
#25373478 - 08/07/18 08:46 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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hazelnut said: I have 3 pan cyan aussie tubs – 2 shoeboxes and 1 17qt minimono.
– Spawn is WBS – Substrate is dehydrated hpoo; coarse verm 10–20% by volume; gypsum 5–10% per volume (as per RR recipe)
They were spawned 6 days ago. The mycelium recovered quickly, with white pufs of myc where the grains were, but it didn't seem to want to spread into the substrate with much vigor. Is it worth casing these and proceeding? I understand pan cyan aussie has more wispy mycelium, but these don't look good to me. There's also a lot of yellow liquid in places.

Did you case?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25373558 - 08/07/18 09:19 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asura said:
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hazelnut said: I have 3 pan cyan aussie tubs – 2 shoeboxes and 1 17qt minimono.
– Spawn is WBS – Substrate is dehydrated hpoo; coarse verm 10–20% by volume; gypsum 5–10% per volume (as per RR recipe)
They were spawned 6 days ago. The mycelium recovered quickly, with white pufs of myc where the grains were, but it didn't seem to want to spread into the substrate with much vigor. Is it worth casing these and proceeding? I understand pan cyan aussie has more wispy mycelium, but these don't look good to me. There's also a lot of yellow liquid in places.

Did you case?
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mary fairchild
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25374385 - 08/08/18 08:00 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi Hazelnut, From the pics I'd case them now.
Aussies dont give a thick mycelial layer on top of the sub. Looks like you have a uniform whitish layer over the sub.
It's hard to tell if those are standard size shoeboxes. lt looks like your first pic, that box-the spawn/sub is maybe too deep, the other pics look better.
Regarding the yellow liquid, It looks like metabolites, no problem. You can sop them up with a paper towel before casing. If it all smells ok- like Pans, a sweet almondy smell, an earthy smell, or little smell at all, you are probably ok. If its a sour smell, or a mold smell you're in trouble.
Edited by mary fairchild (08/10/18 05:48 PM)
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hazelnut
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25374515 - 08/08/18 09:09 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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@Asura & @tryptkaloids— I haven't cased yet !
Thank you Mary! I will mop up the metabolites and case these with 50/50+ ASAP. They smell fine I think.
There are two standard size shoeboxes (6qt I think), and one 17qt mini mono. On one shoebox, I made the substrate depth 2" – this mistake happened because I was too concerned about making a 1:2 spawn:sub ratio, which ended up being at the cost of making the substrate too thick. On the other 6qt, and the 17qt, the substrate depth is around 1.5". I figure it will be interesting to compare how the different substrate depths perform.
Thank you More to come
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hazelnut] 1
#25383145 - 08/12/18 09:03 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pan cyan "Australia" redspore
Pan cinctulus
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mary fairchild
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: V.L]
#25383391 - 08/12/18 11:16 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looking great as usual VL, the coveted redspore! You doing any trades for prints?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
#25385716 - 08/13/18 01:26 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks Mary! I refreshed my Pan prints recently i can trade Pan cinctulus, Pan cyan "Jamaïca"&"Alabama", Pan tropicalis, Pan Goliath... but the "Australia" redspore just did really few, i need to work again on it.. to share more.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: V.L]
#25390450 - 08/15/18 03:28 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Does this species typically go blue on agar?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: eldearmano]
#25390458 - 08/15/18 03:32 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Made my first ever pan cyan shoe box today....stoked.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
#25390721 - 08/15/18 05:43 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pan Bis here 4 days after casing. Let it consolidate for 10 days after fully colonizing.
How’s it looking?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Xerbia]
#25390750 - 08/15/18 05:57 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only thing I want to say is fuck pan jams in every goddamn hole. Does anyone have any jams with good genetics? The amount of work I've put in to 4 grows is unreal. I'm on to Aussies and Cambos now. Hoping for better results.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: eldearmano]
#25391986 - 08/16/18 09:40 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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eldearmano said: Does this species typically go blue on agar?

Contam- maybe an aspergillis- some of them can blue. More questions than answers,
Do you know what species it is? Pan cyan or cambo? Both cyans & cambos tend to blue, but only after sitting on the plate for a long time. When the mycelia gets old psilocin and other phenolic compounds leak out and oxidize to give the blue color, people call it bruising.
Is this from a wild print? Did you make a spore syringe or just put spores from print directly on to the middle of the plate?
From spore syringe or a print, either wild or cultivated, always streak the plate. For this it works better on petri dishes- easier to streak and bigger surface area. You can pick out the clean looking candidates to new plates, gets you on the road.
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