Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

Sporeworks
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 |  [ show all ]
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11028102 -

That was uh ... not really an answer. At all.

I asked you for details about the experiences which you have had (and presumably, others have not) and in response you said "I have had some experiences." Please try again?
I would like you to describe what it is about your experience which has made a believer out of an atheist.


--------------------
Weedmaster P knows the truth.

Edited by laserpig (09/09/09 03:25 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: laserpig]
    #11028254 -

Not trying to be cliche, but high dose psychedelic experiences.  High dose LSD, DMT, Mushrooms to be specific.


--------------------
L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11028263 -

So a brain that is not performing optimally, from a biological perspective, is closer to God? :cuckoo:


--------------------
Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Poid]
    #11028284 -

A brain isn't preforming "optimally" when tripping? Poid, do you even know what the term optimum stands for?


--------------------
:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Poid]
    #11028289 -

Poid said:
Trying to explain things to me? :cuckoo:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #11028297 -

In terms of survival, hallucinations are useless. :shrug:


I suppose optimum was the wrong term...


--------------------
Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Poid]
    #11028306 -

may not be long-term optimal, for that reason, but they could possibly show short-term benefit through increased mental processing etc


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Poid]
    #11028307 -

I really do not think that "optimal" brain function exists. That would suggest that brain function is trying to accomplish something specific.


--------------------
Weedmaster P knows the truth.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: laserpig]
    #11028314 -

laserpig said:
That would suggest that brain function is trying to accomplish something specific.


Survival. :paranoid:


--------------------
Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Poid]
    #11028319 -

In which case, as long as I'm not dead, I must be functioning optimally.


--------------------
Weedmaster P knows the truth.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: laserpig]
    #11028326 -

Survival is a state of being, as well as a state of doing.


--------------------
Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Poid]
    #11028352 -

Poid said:
In terms of survival, hallucinations are useless. :shrug:



Two questions: 1) Who said that life is only a matter of survival? 2) How do you know what the "terms of survival" are at any given point or instance, since these aren't preset in any way?


--------------------
:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Poid]
    #11028381 -

Poid said:
So a brain that is not performing optimally, from a biological perspective, is closer to God? :cuckoo:


No.  Just no no no not at all what im saying.  Tripping is by no means optimal brain function.  Its just different.  Tripping has the potential to exacerbate mystical experiences.  Those mystical experiences have led me to believe in a higher order of consciousness.  If i went into the details you would just think im a crazy acid head:shrug:


--------------------
L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11028387 -

Go ahead dude, we already think that.  Give us some details.  :grin:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #11028389 -

MushroomTrip said:
Poid said:
In terms of survival, hallucinations are useless. :shrug:



Two questions: 1) Who said that life is only a matter of survival?


Isn't it mainly? :justdontknow:


MushroomTrip said:
2) How do you know what the "terms of survival" are at any given point or instance, since these aren't preset in any way?


I don't, and I don't see how this is too relevant to my point.


--------------------
Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: DieCommie]
    #11028418 -

DieCommie said:
Go ahead dude, we already think that.  Give us some details.  :grin:


There really are no words to describe it.  Except dissolving into infinity, and going to other dimensions:shrug:  Its beyond linguistics.


--------------------
L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11028441 -

And there is no chance it was a drug induced fantasy that has nothing to do with an external reality?

Ive had alot of psychedelic experiences that are beyond description, and they were just that - experiences.  Drugs do crazy and wonderful things.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: DieCommie]
    #11028469 -

Quote:
Drugs do crazy and wonderful things.


I look back fondly on that wonderful morning after a fifth of vodka. :puke:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: Poid]
    #11028479 -

Poid said:
Isn't it mainly? :justdontknow:



Maybe for you, but this doesn't mean that survival is universally mainly important.

Quote:
I don't, and I don't see how this is too relevant to my point.


How isn't it relevant? You're practically basing your entire argument or these terms of survival, but you don't know them. D'oh! :lol:


--------------------
:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: The hilarity of the atheist [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #11028495 -

MushroomTrip said:
Poid said:
Isn't it mainly? :justdontknow:



Maybe for you, but this doesn't mean that survival is universally mainly important.


Isn't it a living organism's modus operandi to continue surviving?


MushroomTrip said:
How isn't it relevant? You're practically basing your entire argument or these terms of survival, but you don't know them. D'oh! :lol:


I'm not sure what to make of the term "terms of survival" since I didn't even introduce it to this thread...


--------------------
Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 |  [ show all ]

Shop: Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Christians v. Lions Frog 639 3 12/09/03 12:34 AM
by Frog
* Some Christians and the Atheist
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )		 Swami 15,216 119 07/31/02 07:19 AM
by Sclorch
* Are Atheists __________? Indeed, they are.
( 1 2 3 4 ... 9 10 all )		 World Spirit 14,499 190 12/20/02 08:13 PM
by RebelSteve33
* Christian bigotry at its finest!
( 1 2 all )		 Azmodeus 2,373 25 06/13/03 09:47 PM
by Murex
* God Exists
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )		 Zahid 12,760 113 03/18/03 03:57 PM
by falcon
* Agnostics and atheists will you succumb just before the end?
( 1 2 all )		 Scarfmeister 3,705 25 04/23/03 06:18 PM
by CeeEssGee
* I want you guys to understand Christian Judgment
( 1 2 3 4 all )		 World Spirit 5,270 65 05/05/03 09:33 PM
by CosmicJoke
* You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity)
( 1 2 all )		 World Spirit 2,721 36 01/05/03 05:28 PM
by World Spirit

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
8,069 topic views. 2 members, 22 guests and 9 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.036 seconds spending 0.013 seconds on 18 queries.