I personally think that most western well established religions are feel good nonsense. I mean really, when you die that's not the end, no matter how horrible I am someone loves me, no matter what I have done someone accepts me, and all my morals are handed to me on a silver platter, and I am part of something bigger then my self, my life always has meaning, I am right because my book says so - if you don't think I am right your under the influence of evil. Wow, no thinking, no accountability, always feeling loved, never feeling alone, and a reason to live.
All that is fine and great, but say *hypotheticly* someone gives you evidence that all your beliefs are wrong. Every last one, there was no Jesus, we where not created by some all knowing all loving God, the whole dam bible is bullshit. And they prove it to you. Then you had a choice, forget all you learned and live your happy life full of Jesus; or know the truth for the rest of your life and deal with your mortality. What would you chose? Really?
I think being a Christian is convenient. It is nice. It feels good. If you want to believe something really really bad you start to see it. I am an atheist if you mean beliving in no all knowing all seeing deity figure with lightning bolts. But I am a very spiritual person, I love the earth I live on! I love that I am born, I will live my life and then I will return to the earth. It makes me enjoy living, because it is a gift, the energy or 'soul' that is in me will live on forever with the earth my mother, but what is my personality will no longer exist, so it is safe to say that I die... But will you ever get me to believe that what ever is out there is intelligent in the way that we define intelligence, nope. I think that is all just brain juice and chemicals. Souls are on a totally different level. Think about it, no chemicals, no brains...
Why would you get rewarded or punished in eternity for something that your personality does, your personality seems really really dynamic? It changes with what you eat, where your at, the lighting, the sound, the chemical make up of the air and it's density, your thoughts, the moon's location, sun spots, the time of month ect.... What sense would it make; making something that is not your personality, pay for what your personality does? I mean it dies with all the brain juice.
Okay, I know if I put a starving dog in front of a bowel of food, and an empty bowel, I know it will go to the one with food in it. Now I did not create that dogs neurochemistry, how it's environment will effect it, the physical laws surrounding it, and every nuance of everything that it is, and that is around it. But your saying that "God" created all these systems in humans and would not know how someone would react in every situation? I don't buy it. And if he does where does that leave free choice? Without that your pusdo-"Lutheristic" version of Christianity means little to nothing to me.
Dealing with ones own mortality in a rational way to me is much less cowardly then drowning yourself with mythology and dogma.
Now if I am completely wrong, please correct me. I have spent a long time thinking about this and have been on a long spiritual journey. I am not saying that Christians are stupid or dumb or anything, just that unless there is something that I really don't understand about your religion I don't really think I will ever subscribe to it, well about as much chance as I would subscribe to Greek mythology.
I don't pray, I don't ask for forgiveness from my imaginary friend. I really don't think a deity figure would really give a dam. I take responsibility for my actions, and live with the repercussions. How is that cowardly?
Edited by shroomerylurker (08/03/02 06:47 PM)
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