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You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity)
    #1185214 - 01/02/03 01:39 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1185285 - 01/02/03 02:18 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I got laid by a Christian yesterday, the first Christian I've ever made it with, and I confess, I was being prejudiced (I always imagined it would would be a prudish screw). Oh God, I was wrong! Tongue n' hands moved all over me as quick as bolts of summer lightning! Inspiring!


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1185289 - 01/02/03 02:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Christian girls are just too cute, especially the mormon girls around here.  They look cute and innocent, but they're demons in bed, just waiting for a chance to be let loose.  :grin: 


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1185294 - 01/02/03 02:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You haven't said anything here that I don't already understand.

"In the view of true Christians, Jesus is the literal fullness of God in the form of man."

Yeah, that's what they think. It doesn't make it so.

I don't think you understand why a lot of people think that religion is goofy. I know there are lots of dumb atheists out there. In fact, I think atheism is just as ridiculous as Christianity. It is a belief that there is no god. I am an agnostic, which means I don't believe either way.

It seems pretty damn likely to me that the entire bible is just a work of fiction, and I have seen no evidence to the contrary.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1185436 - 01/02/03 03:38 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I noticed in your post that you equate God to man. By equate I mean that you see God in terms of man. A few examples: talking with God, God has desire, God gets displeased or angy, etc... Is this view of God being in man's image part of Christianity, or any other religions for that matter? I mean no offense or disrespect here; my wording may not be the best.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1185486 - 01/02/03 04:07 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I'm sure there are Christians who would say that you have it wrong(let me guess they must be the dumb ones :smirk:).

Your version of Christianity is not the only version and it certainly isn't the "True"(faith is subjective) version.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1185489 - 01/02/03 04:08 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

As Nietzsche said, "There was only one real Christian, and he died on the Cross."

Anyone who sincerely tries to follow the example of Christ is a true Christian in my eyes, and worthy of tremendous respect. I think Nietzsche exaggerates: there HAVE been such people through history. Unfortunately, very very many people who have called themselves Christians over the last two millennia have had very different things in mind.

I would also add that God's mercy is just as powerful as His anger.

I wish you luck in your spiritual journey.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1185713 - 01/02/03 06:16 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

God has every emotion, anger just as well as joy.  :wink:


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1185958 - 01/02/03 08:54 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

"Just like you can anger your friends or your boss or your girlfriend/boyfriend - and you have to apologize and talk things over, so it is with God."

And you're SURE this isn't a complete waste of one's time? I used to pray n all that; I was raised Catholic... and I've found that praying and "talking" to 'god' doesn't do anything. It just APPEARS to do something when somebody prays often. 1 out of 200 prayers could finally "come through" and that person will be thankful to whoever they prayed to for answering their prayer..

I could do something very similar by simply sitting down at a blackjack table.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1186057 - 01/02/03 10:29 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

1. You think of God Almighty, therefore God Almighty exists to you.
2. I want you to tell us what the person said to make you put this in your post.
3. Jesus is in the bible, and everything else you wrote is in that same book.
4. I must admit the idea of God is really powerful, because it makes people like you Enter sound delusional.
5. It's all in your head.
6. Have you ever disagreed with what the preacher was preaching?
7. Dumb and stupid are more like opinions for people who aren't like you.

Sorry i know i could of writing something better. I have too much negativity when someone starts going on about religion.

Thoughts come and go, just like each of our lives. Enter you are like the rest of us who want to know the truth. You chose to accept Christianity. Most of us here didn't.


What i think.

1. Religion eliminates possibility... bla bla bla... One thing i strongly believe is that there is no right or wrong way to think/believe.

2. Get two people who call themselves Christians together to have a discusion on their beliefs. They turn out to have different views... bla bla bla ... Plain and simple. There is more then one view.

3. You accept the words from the bible and give them your own meaning... bla bla bla... What i do believe is that "God" comes from within.

Do i really need to go into each of these?

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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: Phluck]
    #1186084 - 01/02/03 11:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I think atheism is just as ridiculous as Christianity. It is a belief that there is no god. I am an agnostic, which means I don't believe either way.



I lurk around the boards a lot and usually respect what you have to say, but that statement seemed foolish, in my opinion. If I were to ask you if you believe in unicorns, you would probably say "no". We cannot be certain whether or not unicorns really exist, but most of us disbelieve in something until proven otherwise (kind of like "innocent until proven guilty"). I guess God must be the exception...

The literal translation of the word agnostic is "lack of knowledge". Keeping that in mind, I see no reason why an atheist (one who disbelieves in or denies the existance of God), cannot be agnostic as well.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: Droz]
    #1186117 - 01/02/03 11:45 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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4. I must admit the idea of God is really powerful, because it makes people like you Enter sound delusional.




I know you probably didn't mean this as a flame but stop and think how others might take this. I'm not asking you to walk on eggshells but remember that being nice is better than not being nice.

I can see this subject is sensitive to you. If it really bothers you then you did pretty good by just saying what you did.

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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: xnevermore]
    #1186571 - 01/03/03 06:40 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

"If I were to ask you if you believe in unicorns, you would probably say "no"."

Yeah, and if you asked me if I believed in God, I would say no, and if you asked me if I beleieved there was no god, I'd say "no" as well.

"The literal translation of the word agnostic is "lack of knowledge". Agnostic. Keeping that in mind, I see no reason why an atheist (one who disbelieves in or denies the existance of God), cannot be agnostic as well. "

Well, the literal definition of agnostic is "One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.", or "One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.", while the atheist outright denies the existance of god.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1186641 - 01/03/03 07:05 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity)

Gee, we ALL have it ALL wrong? But you have it ALL right? No arrogance there!


Here is the real truth about Christianity:

Christians are highly judgmental and very self-righteous.

Christians rationalize violence, divorce, adultery, lying, theft, etc.

There are no miracles and prayer doesn't work.

I particularly love it when you say that you can't judge the teacher or teachings by the followers. Bullshit! As a racquetball instructor and personal trainer, I am proud of my students/clients as they STAND OUT from the crowd! They are examples.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: Swami]
    #1186820 - 01/03/03 08:03 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Christianity looks pretty normal at glance. It's like most religions...morals mixed with mysticism...

I've read several parts of the bible, where does all these bad qualities (some of) you speak of, actually come from?


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: Murex]
    #1187136 - 01/03/03 09:59 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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God has every emotion, anger just as well as joy.  :wink: 




I agree.  I didn't say that "God" didn't.

pssst....i'm not christian


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: Phluck]
    #1187569 - 01/03/03 12:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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the atheist outright denies the existance of god.



Wrong again. While someone who denies the existance of God is considered an atheist, an atheist isn't necessarily a person who denies the existance of God.

a?the?ist Audio pronunciation of atheist ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-st)
n.

One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: xnevermore]
    #1189955 - 01/04/03 11:42 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

In the view of true Christians, Jesus is the literal fullness of God in the form of man. There is no other person who shares the full Spirit of God in his/her body. Only Jesus had this.

Can I make a suggestion?

Maybe Jesus fully remembered that he was a part of God all of the time, while the rest of us mortals are on the road to remembering that we are God?


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: undecided]
    #1190081 - 01/04/03 12:39 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I am just wondering who are you to say Christianity is right? what about Dioism, Buddism, Hunduism, Satinism, Polyithism. (i know i spelled those all wrong). Believe what you want to believe. Just don't drag me down the path your going cause i am making my own.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: ]
    #1190177 - 01/04/03 01:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

The term delusional was not really what i meant. I did not mean it in a bad way.

The way i see it is... he is like jumping to conclusions on the truth because he wants answers like all of us. Well if i could explain it better i would. Never do i aim to make anyone feel bad and what not. But hey i am young and was typing what i thought.

Communication is so complex. If i could say the words right the first time i would.  :grin:

It's this whole communication over the internet thing. So easy to misunderstand one another. Not like in person isn't bad enough. Hehe.

I wish everything could be "right".

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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: Droz]
    #1190184 - 01/04/03 01:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks Droz! 

You're cool!  I appreciate the explanation. :smile:


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1190227 - 01/04/03 01:53 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Enter, Do you believe Christianity is the only "right" path for a person to take?

You bring up points to make it seem like there is a 'pure' form of christianity. I don't care what you believe in or to what extent, but the second you think you know what is 'right' and 'wrong' for another person(spiritually speaking) is when your ignorance shines.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: Grav]
    #1190234 - 01/04/03 01:56 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Everyone's ignorance shines in one form or another.

The harder you try to hide it the brighter it shines.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1190242 - 01/04/03 02:00 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

3. Jesus is not a guy in a book and that's it. In the view of true Christians, Jesus is the literal fullness of God in the form of man. There is no other person who shares the full Spirit of God in his/her body. Only Jesus had this.

i am the literal fullness of god in the form of man. just my darn ego keeps gttin in the way of things :wink:


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: Grav]
    #1190763 - 01/04/03 06:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1190842 - 01/04/03 07:39 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

alright cool Enter, but what about my question?

Maybe Jesus fully remembered that he was a part of God all of the time, while the rest of us mortals are on the road to remembering that we are God?


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1191179 - 01/04/03 10:15 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Examine that verse closely. The Disciples are saying that the people believe that Jesus is a reincarnated prophet.

Anyways, I think the difference between people like Jesus, Buddha, etc. and the rest of us, is that they fully remember that they are God, and we are still trying to remember.  :cool:



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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: undecided]
    #1191429 - 01/05/03 01:18 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

why must "god" have emotions? for god to have emotions he must have a brain, he must be conscious, our view on him is based on our view of humanity, we just assume that this thing we call 'god' is like us, cares about what we do, and has an effect on our lives.. i think that it is best not to call it 'god', beause it has too many stigmas attached to it. let me ask you WHY this entity would care about petty human issues, if indeed it could conceptualize what we considered to be right and wrong. would it need a brain to experience emotions? and how can it be everywhere and have a brain?

i think that what we call god is universally seen as the 'life force' that keeps things running, it is the thing that keeps the world spinning and gravity pulling and things growing and things dying..not a human-type being that sits on a cloud getting angry about us cheating on our wives or stealing a bike. although i still beleive it is wrong to do these things, it is not because we owe this life force anything, but from an entirely practical point because we would not like it done to us..


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: i am e goldstein]
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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1191863 - 01/05/03 08:31 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

"Talking is a key to our human relationships. It is also a key to our relationship with God whom we cannot see."

However, symbolic language is a human device, and a product of what some might deem the "luciferian logic". I find it important to remember that language can be inacurate and sloppy at best, and destructive and deceiving at worst.

"Stupid people do stupid things. Smart people outsmart each other. Then TEHEMSELVES then THEMSELVES."

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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: Viveka]
    #1191882 - 01/05/03 08:43 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1191894 - 01/05/03 08:48 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Excellent post



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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: Viveka]
    #1191953 - 01/05/03 09:20 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Welcome stranger to the curious world of SPS. Where the hosts are as _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ as the members are.

Be sure to read the "Be Nice" policy and put the lid down after you use the john. We get a lot of complaints otherwise.

Later I'll be grilling some cheese sandwiches as I stand on my head. Would you be interested in some soda beer?

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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: World Spirit]
    #1192070 - 01/05/03 10:05 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

They had no concept of paranoid schizophrenia o delusions of grandeur or anything of the sort. If I were to say Im an alien incarnated in a human body, you would all (except for a few) have a good laugh at my expense. You would think im crazy. So is it not possible that jesus was just a raving lunatic? 2000 years ago people didn't know better. So he was intelligent, he could heal with energy (so can many others) he said he was the son of God (as we all are). He was a good man(if he was human at all) and thats where it ends. Jesus was NOT God anymore than you or I. He was probibly like the Buddah, very enlightened, in touch with himself, and thus in touch with God. Maybe he was pleaiden they look human right?

PS..Enter I don't mean to offend, and it's great that you have faith, but please man please! keep your eyes open. The bible has some good shit in it, but don't let your "good book" be your only perspective, that will only serve to keep you ignorant. There is ALWAYS more than one side to a story. You can't trust the bible as the only version of the truth.


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Re: You have it all wrong (The truth about Christianity) [Re: FatNug]
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