Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

MushroomMan Mycology
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 |  [ show all ]
Does the Devil exist?
    #8279558 -

So I've noticed a rather large number of posts questioning God's existence, but nary a post questioning the existence of his polar opposite, the Devil. (Be it the traditional Satan from Judeo-Christianity, Iblis from Islam, etc...) Why do (or don't) you believe in the Devil?
So how 'bout it... does the Lord of Flies exist?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from 04/13/08 08:56 PM until the end of time
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll



--------------------
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: deCypher]
    #8279571 -

Yup.  It is I.:heartpump::evil:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8279616 -

Judaistic scriptures never once mention the devil and early Chirstian scriptures do not mention it either, the devil was first introduced to man by the vatican in the 5 century B.C.E. How bout them apples


--------------------


You will be missed

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8279648 -

the devil is just as real as god


--------------------
"Psychedelics should be used not to escape reality, but to embrace it"


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: danlennon3]
    #8279661 -

Yes

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8279694 -

Luke 10:18
And he(Jesus) said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.



--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: deCypher]
    #8279698 -

Personally I don't think there is a Devil.

I think theres 2 reasons why the "Devil" was created.

1. To explain things that are bad. "if God made the world why do all of these bad things happen?" person answers "the Devil is responsible for those bad things."

2. To scare people into joining some kind of organized religion. "if you don't accept Jesus as your lord and savior then the Devil will get your soul when you die!"


--------------------
"If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley
:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: aDoS]
    #8280209 -

I had a discussion about Satan with one of those strangers who strikes up a conversation with you so they can get to the preaching as quickly as possible.  This guy's topic was the Apocalypse, and how it began in 1918 and was still going on.

Anyway, as we talked it suddenly occurred to me that the Devil would HAVE TO be smarter than I am, and it was pretty stupidly obvious to me that to fight God would be a losing proposition for anyone.  So I asked him why the Devil would do something so stupid.  He didn't have much of an answer, but it did get me thinking.

The Devil is about Vanity.  The only reason Lucifer could do so manifestly stupid and self-destructive a thing is not because he could win, but because he liked the way having a third of heaven's angels believing he could win made him feel about himself.  Even though they were wrong, those angels believed Lucifer was better than God, and with a simple act of denial, he could believe it too.  And the end result is tragedy for Lucifer.

No, I don't think the Morning Star is a real guy.  But it's a good story about facing things for what they are, and not letting pride blind you to what's real.

:mushroom2:

The Rev


--------------------
I AM ØRIGIN

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: The Rev]
    #8281129 -

Where the fuck is the STAL option....hail satan


--------------------
The Prophecy!

Learn To Code

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8281221 -

:mad2:No such thing, sorry :shrug:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: VisualLearner]
    #8281316 -

i believe god, and satan, or good and evil, are part of the same being. Like a yingyang spirit.


--------------------
Fact: Saving the environment can take centuries
A blow job can take up to 5 minutes.
"When was the last time you heard green peace talk about the immense pleasure you get when you put your penis in someone Else's mouth? " -jonlajoie

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: deCypher]
    #8281330 -

No god no devil no evidence.


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: Icelander]
    #8281358 -

While I just cant believe in anything on faith alone without evidence, I also cant firmly refute anything, or anyones existence without proof.:shrug:


--------------------
The Prophecy!

Learn To Code

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8281471 -

True, but one option might be more probable than the other.


--------------------
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: deCypher]
    #8281534 -

There is no evil just ignorance


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: Chronic7]
    #8281546 -

I'd have to disagree. Was Ted Bundy ignorant?


--------------------
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: deCypher]
    #8281570 -

The Cypher said:
True, but one option might be more probable than the other.


How so? More importantly why do I need to choose one or the other.


--------------------
The Prophecy!

Learn To Code

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8281589 -

LOL... there's no reason why you have to choose one or the other, but complete and utter agnosticism is a tad irrational. Why? Well, it's true that you can't prove or disprove the existence of God. At the same time, it's true that you can't prove or disprove the existence of an invisible flying spaghetti monster, or an imaginary pink unicorn (to take the example of the leading anti-intelligent design arguments).

You can't prove or disprove the existence of these beings either way, but it's damn more improbable that the flying spaghetti monster exists than that it doesn't.


--------------------
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: deCypher]
    #8281600 -

The Devil works great as a metaphor for the dysfunctional aspects of human nature

Should never have been taken literally


--------------------
Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man.  For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire.  Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.

~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

:heartpump:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Does the Devil exist? [Re: deCypher]
    #8281612 -

The Cypher said:
LOL... there's no reason why you have to choose one or the other, but complete and utter agnosticism is a tad irrational. Why? Well, it's true that you can't prove or disprove the existence of God. At the same time, it's true that you can't prove or disprove the existence of an invisible flying spaghetti monster, or an imaginary pink unicorn (to take the example of the leading anti-intelligent design arguments).

You can't prove or disprove the existence of these beings either way, but it's damn more improbable that the flying spaghetti monster exists than that it doesn't.


I hear ya, I guess what I was saying was I just choose not to even concern myself with such thing. Although the flying spaghetti monster is 100% real...he saved me.


--------------------
The Prophecy!

Learn To Code

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 |  [ show all ]

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Agnostics and atheists will you succumb just before the end?
( 1 2 all )		 Scarfmeister 3,714 25 04/23/03 06:18 PM
by CeeEssGee
* assumptions in agnostic"ism" kaiowas 920 8 11/08/04 11:27 PM
by kbilly
* For those of you who see mushrooms as sacred
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 all )		 Colonel Kurtz Ph.D 13,637 133 07/12/05 10:37 PM
by GNIOM1498
* Does God Exist? part one
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 all )		 MentalHygene 17,225 126 02/22/02 08:26 PM
by ArCh_TemPlaR
* Could God Forgive the devil?
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 all )		 sir tripsalot 17,687 124 04/25/02 03:47 PM
by sir tripsalot
* Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist?
( 1 2 3 all )		 Larrythescaryrex 8,128 42 07/30/02 04:00 PM
by Larrythescaryrex
* God Cannot Exist
( 1 2 all )		 jim_dewit 5,683 39 08/22/02 06:29 PM
by Xlea321
* The Devil
( 1 2 all )		 Swami 2,143 29 07/19/04 04:31 PM
by kaiowas

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
3,566 topic views. 0 members, 1 guests and 10 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.059 seconds spending 0.03 seconds on 23 queries.