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InvisibleLallafa
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: ]
    #555479 - 02/18/02 05:35 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

"I need proof. Without visual proof i don't believe in God. The same goes for most things in my life, if you can't see it then it doesn't exist"

i agree.
you should read http://www.crystalinks.com/holographic.html
i dont know about the universe being a hologram, but i know that alain aspects stuff is proven

i believe the things that i see, but i am very willing to accept that there are things we dont know or understand, and maybe never will.

the fact that particles can be connected on a molecular level makes me think that there is much more to existence than the physical world i see


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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Lallafa]
    #555790 - 02/19/02 12:32 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Doing so many drugs i had damaged my brain very much. On one strange evening my mind begain racing with strange thoughts. I then headed outside to see spirits, and started communicating with them and what i had thought to be god. Turns out i went schizo and had a chemical imbalance. A psycotic break they called it. So now i no longer believe in the possibility of humans having a spirit that lives on in the afterlife. I know a few people that believe in god, and all they can say when i question their beliefs is because god made it that way.

We only experience a glimpse of what is really out there. So many things that are happening behind the curtains we cannot comprehend. So to say you have faith in something is simply blind.


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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Droz]
    #555954 - 02/19/02 04:21 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

>>We only experience a glimpse of what is really out there. So many things that are happening behind the curtains we cannot comprehend. So to say you have faith in something is simply blind.

you have a lot of faith that there is more out there behind the curtains.

i think that we make this whole "religion" thing must harder than it needs to be. the way i see it... it's useless and harmful, actually, to use the mind to think about the mind. we cannot comprehend what we cannot observe, and we cannot observe existence. "i'm only seen til i arrive" . i think psychedelics are very useful but people should stop once they get the picture. drugs have a purpose, and they have built-in defense mechanisms to keep people from abusing them. their purpose is to make you aware of reality, in case you can't accomplish that some other way.

this is what i believe... reality is a purposeful existence. i don't care to speculate on god, the afterlife, reincarnation, spirits, etc. i exist, it seems like you all exist also. the world is beautiful when we don't put our own definitions and limitations on it. it appears that everything is intelligently developed and serves a purpose of some sort. i feel, although i can't prove it, that all my thoughts and actions are being recorded somewhere, somehow, for some reason. that's all i need to know.


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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Droz]
    #556069 - 02/19/02 10:26 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I think you may have hit the area I call "the drug dead end"...

This is my opinion and I don't want to get off topic too far but I don't believe you can find God in drug use. I have had several intense "hard" trips that lead me to what I call "the drug dead end". What I mean is that the drugs took my mind to a state of nothingness....a void..... an area where there was nothing at all no God no devil no anything, just a black void that I looked into....
In order to see and relate to God I had to come back to reality. The drugs changed my thinking but I still had to relate to God with the new information.
On the way to this state of nothing you might see spirits....

God is not threatened by our discussion......He knows He exists....


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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: ArCh_TemPlaR]
    #556525 - 02/19/02 07:39 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

What is xianism?
What are these models of God you are refering to?
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: ]
    #557017 - 02/20/02 03:04 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Ulysees_ is not me, just letting you all know (note the "_" at the end of the imposters name). He has some valid points though. :wink:



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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Ulysees]
    #560169 - 02/22/02 10:26 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Ulysees: Agh.. Sorry, I came back and found this quite humorous. Why do people keep directing such questions at me??? I'm not a muslim, don't believe in any type of supreme God -- yet I keep getting the questions! ahaha

So I'll make it very clear: I am a templar for no one but for myself. No god has will over me.. I cannot be boxed into a belief system, no matter what. It's my nature to question orthodoxy..

Mycoangelo: Xianism = Christain fundamentalism. One faith, one God, everything else not aligned is the source of Devil [stated by one fundamentalist I debated with]. Xianistic precepts are prevalent in any mysticism, it's just more ridiculously pronounced in monotheism. In the end, it's just the person's clarity and right intention, not the belief system.


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