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OfflineLarrythescaryrexS
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Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist?
    #782732 - 07/28/02 08:41 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I have been thinking about some of swami's post lately, and my own beliefs...

I used to be a hard core christian... but life sucked. Slowly, over time, I began to think that maybe God does exist and just doesn't care about us. Maybe he loved us, but didn't cared about what happened to us on earth?

But yesterday, I went to talk to my ex-girl friend. She was a very cool chick with lots of potential. I asked her if she wanted to go to Ozzfest with me. This launched her into an hour long about how she only listens to gospil music now, and only does "godlly" things. I almost said, why do you devout your life to a dead god? That was when I realized, I have lost all belief in god...

My life has been the same with and without faith....

I don't know anymore....


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #782774 - 07/28/02 09:04 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #782784 - 07/28/02 09:10 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Why does everyone associate this religion garbage with the existance of God?

Why must you look for a reason for faith?

Step back watch the flow.

God is rythm.

tap into it.


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Adom]
    #782818 - 07/28/02 09:28 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

adom,
don't stop there, please elaborate.


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invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Adom]
    #782835 - 07/28/02 09:36 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Why must a rhythm be an entity?

Why call it a force?

Why give it a name?

Why is it so much like humans?

Why accept that it's "greater" than oneself?

Why worship it?

Why talk down to others for not acknowledging it?

Why kill in it's name?

Why justify everything you do or do not do based on it's "teachings"?

Why can't you live without it?

Why must you believe in it?

Why not just focus on being... nay, becoming?


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #782841 - 07/28/02 09:37 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Well there you go, thanks Sclorch.


Edited by Adom (07/28/02 09:39 PM)


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Sclorch]
    #782855 - 07/28/02 09:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #782862 - 07/28/02 09:47 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

God died before my eyes on shrooms, slain by a society that looks for him too hard.


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: World Spirit]
    #782922 - 07/28/02 10:11 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I am willing to accept reality if reality is that Jesus is not the Lord or that there is no Lord. But I don't believe that.

So, you're NOT willing to accept it then are you?


Now, can you accept in the realm of possibility even, a God who chooses to create an identity for Himself?

Well, we have several assumptions here...
1. God is an active force.
2. God wants an identity (sort of redundant based on the assumption that a god exists- and a singular one at that).
3. God is male.

But YEAH, sure I'll accept the ever so slight possibility of a God who chooses to create an identity for Himself. I'm all about possibilities. That one just isn't friggin' likely. My most liberal probability estimate ranks it's truth value somewhere in the neighborhood of 0.00000000000000000001%. It might be less... I don't know for sure. Of course this was all run through a supercomputer, but I was using Windows XP, so it might have rounded up (damnit Microsoft!!).


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: World Spirit]
    #782956 - 07/28/02 10:31 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Hey Enter,
I think its great that your Faith makes you stronger.
That said, I think its awfully naieve to think Jesus/Christanity is the One true Path. Just the way I think it is niave to think the sun will ALWAYS come up. I may not be here, but one day, it will go out.

Please do not hit me with a lot of scripture to support your beliefs. I have not assaulted you with mine.

Oh, and By the by, Christanity was culled from thosands of years of myth and legend that date back to the Dawn of Man. It survived not cause it was 'right' but because it was 'last'
In 10,000 - will anyone even know why that man was nailed to a 'T'?
-OoD (just stirin the proverbal shit pot)


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Sclorch]
    #783014 - 07/28/02 11:27 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Haha Thats great
Its the CYA principle. Cover Your Ass. Otherwise peoplewould just live and die, couldnt let that happen now could we?


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Sclorch]
    #783023 - 07/28/02 11:35 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Why not just focus on being... nay, becoming?

why focus on becoming? why not just focus on being? are you a masochist?


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #783032 - 07/28/02 11:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

wow....

i was just thinking....

what a perfectly round fro Bob Ross has (had)...


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Amoeba665]
    #783048 - 07/29/02 12:00 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

why focus on becoming? why not just focus on being?
I guess the Nietzsche reference just slipped past you there, didn't it?

are you a masochist?
No, but it appears that I am a developing insomniac.


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: World Spirit]
    #783149 - 07/29/02 03:27 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

You sound like Trent Reznor, "God is dead and no one cares. If there is a hell I'll see you there..."

how dare you talk about Trent Reznor like that. Trent Reznor *IS* God.

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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: why]
    #783187 - 07/29/02 04:15 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

funny you mention it, cuz yes, he is god... and so am i, and so are you... we ARE all god...
In reply to:

Why is it so much like humans?




why don?t you turn that question around, sclorch... why are humans so much like god? we were created in his image and likeness... but not physically, nor emotionally... but spiritually... we are the only livin entity that is able to CREATE its own experiences... through thought, word, and deed (holy trinity)...
oh! and oracle of delphi... yes... it is naive to think the sun will always come up... i believe in god, and there are many many days where the sun refuses to shine... but without those days we wouldnt be able to appreciate the days where all you can see is light... the greater the pain, the greater the joy... and god is the one to help me survive the days without sun... and i learn, through those days... actually this whole sun talk reminded me of a song... one of the most beautiful songs i know...

Change

I don't feel the suns coming out today
It's staying in, its gonna find another way
As I sit here in this misery I don't think I'll ever see the sun from here
And oh as I fade away, they'll all look at me and say,
Hey look at him I'll never live that way
But that's ok their just afraid to change

When you feel your life ain't worth living, you've got to stand up and
take a look around you then a look way up to the sky
And when your deepest thoughts are broken, keep on dreamin boy cause
when you stop dreamin its time to die
And as we all play parts of tomorrow
Some ways we'll work and other ways we'll play
But I know we can't all stay hhere forever
So I want to write my words on the face of today
.....And then they'll paint it

And oh as I fade away they'll all look at me and say,
hey look at him and where he is these days

When life is hard you have to change


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #783220 - 07/29/02 05:21 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

One of the main problems with "belief in God (gods)" is that the arguement presented is that you can not "prove" (its, His, their) existence.......

The trouble with this is that you are looking for a "spiritual being" with the five "physical" senses. It's not surprising that you don't find "it"......

When I get into my car, I don't attempt to "smell" my destination and therefore close my eyes.....I use my eyes and ears to pilot the vehicle.

If I'm looking for God, I don't rely on the five physical senses, I use my spiritual senses. People who have not "taken the leap of faith" from what they can see, hear, feel, smell, and taste get upset when they hear about God. They argue that you can't "prove" His existence and so stay in their comfort zone. If He doesn't exist, well then, I don't have to deal with Him or think outside of myself to consider how my actions and attitudes affect others. If God doesn't exist then I can rape and pillage the world and there are no consequences. I have no responsibility to anyone and can do whatever I want (be as selfish as I want to be).
If God does exist, then we are all connected and what I do and think affects others (....the spiritual senses again,can't be proved with logic or the five physical senses).

I don't have a problem believing in God and living my life to assist and serve others. I don't have a problem believing that life has a purpose and that I and everyone around me is a valuable person, also with purpose. But I can not prove this with the five physical senses. Looking around with just these breeds an environment of fear and mistrust. The world and its peoples look dark and without hope.

Jesus said, the kingdom of God is within you ( the spiritual not physical senses).......

.........only believe.......

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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #783243 - 07/29/02 05:50 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

it takes just as much faith to live when you don't believe in god- faith that life is worth living, even though we die at the end of it.

when you stop blindly following other people and live the way you decide is best, that's something really special.

we are all different. we will all have to find our own answers.


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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: In(di)go]
    #783258 - 07/29/02 06:13 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Good point Lozt Soul...

There are many theological texts which attempt to explain the existance
of God. The Gospel of Thomas has been labeled as heresy by the
Catholics because it challanges one of the most powerful religions in the
world.

What is the basic perspective of the Gospel of Thomas?

It is that the Kingdom of God is spread out upon the earth now, if people can just come to see it; and that there is divine light within all people, a light that can enable them to see the Kingdom of God upon the earth. Further, the perspective of Thomas is that the Image of God in the beginning (Genesis chapter One) still exists and people can assume that identity, an identity that is neither male nor female. The image of God is differentiated from the fallen Adam of Genesis chapter Two. The Gospel of Thomas advocates that people should restore their identities as the image of God now, and see the Kingdom of God on earth now. Thomas reads the first two chapters of Genesis in a straightforward way, there were two separate creations of mankind; the first is perfect, the second flawed. Rather than waiting for a future end-time Kingdom to come, Thomas urges people to return to the perfect Kingdom conditions of Genesis chapter one. For Thomas Endzeit (the final culmination of things) already existed in the Urzeit (the primordial creative time of the past).

We live in a world full of light and dark energy (i.e. WTC 9/11 was an act of
dark energy [a/k/a evil or Satanic] and the heroic efforts of the rescuers was
an example of light energy [a/k/a love or God]. Furthermore, the recent news
reported of the rape and killing of those young girls is a prime example of darkness
or evil energy. Likewise, the recent rescue of the 9 miners in PA is an example of
a miracle perpetuated by light energy or God.

Religion and Faith are two different topics. The difference being that Faith comes
from within each individual and Religion is conceptualized by many.

If you take the word GOOD and drop an "O", you will actually SEE GOD. Hence,
God is whithin everything that is Good!

All in my humble opinion.

Peace to Everyone

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Re: Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist? [Re: Peaceful_Nomad]
    #783308 - 07/29/02 06:46 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Heheh This thread reminds me of the Tool song "Hooker with a Penis" "If your the man, and he's the man and I'm the man. Then you can just stick that fucken finger up your ass!" Well, You get the point.

For worshipping god... jesus... blah blah blah... We are all gods! I will go in depth later on today.. Just my theory!


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