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#544941 - 02/08/02 02:10 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Actually environmental charachteristics have everything to do with human traits. For example people from asia have "slanted" eyes because of the adaption to blowing dust, extreme hot and cold etc
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
#544945 - 02/08/02 02:12 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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My point exactly 
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Zahid]
#544953 - 02/08/02 02:17 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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See we CAN agree on some things.
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 Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
#546284 - 02/10/02 12:35 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Zahid - I was born in texas but grew up in saudi arabia because my dad worked in oil. I was not allowed to practice christianity in SA and somewhere in between here and there I have come to the conclusion that all of the organized religions are the biggest forms of Satan on the planet. All they are is places for scared people who are afraid of individuality to congregate and pretend like they all have something in common. It gives them motivation in life because they believe that if they follow the precepts of their respective texts then they will go to paradise. But I guess you have been brainwashed and no one will ever convince you of that.
There is a God and it can be proven. Look closely at the carpet, God is in the carpet. I am serious, not being sarcastic.
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
#546305 - 02/10/02 01:04 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you say that then explain all the other ethnicities destroyed or still present, then maybe you got something for me to bite onto. :P
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Zahid]
#547429 - 02/11/02 02:21 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I didnt finish reading the replies, cause i was eager to post, but if this was stated before im sorry. I think we evolved, just liek science says, and adam and eve were more of a fable, you are told what you need to know, and thats all that matters..kinda matrix like. :P It fills in the blind spots. And YES. I dont know what kinda god i believe in yes, i dunno if i blieve in it as a soul, or single entity, or just the whole everythign and existace, but im here so i guess i must believe
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
#547543 - 02/11/02 05:34 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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My thoughts:
God is the experiencer, observer, within you and everything.
To experience, one must first have something to experience, so most likely, God is also the original creator.
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Edited by Divine_Madness (02/11/02 05:52 AM)
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 Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
#547749 - 02/11/02 10:32 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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.....yes
It feels really good to not be infinite (like the God I believe in)...I don't have to know or be able to do everything....
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 Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Tannis]
#547880 - 02/11/02 12:36 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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You do not believe that we are also infinite? Do you think we just blow away when we die? just curious
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: LeGrouper]
#547937 - 02/11/02 01:39 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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LeGrouper: First, Saudi Arabia is a corrupt regime. Islam, in fact teaches tolerance of Christianity and Judaism as they are religions of the book, and followers of Allah (only following the teachings of different prophets.) How can say that organized religion are the biggest forms of Satan on the planet? Satan is about evil, Muslims, Christians, and Jews are righteous people. The presence of these three religions that call to follow God are logical as to what God would do to keep man-kind in his place. Yes, there are people who harbour negative views towards organized religion simply because they only see the black and white area (i.e., if you don't follow this religion, you're going to hell.) But Islam, for example goes into such great detail explaining itself, mankind, and the afterlife and it's interfaith dialogue, that people who are Muslims follow Islam because it makes perfect sense, the readings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) are not altered one bit since the prophet's time, unlike the other religions of the book. Christianity is God's word made flesh, Islam is God's word made book. 1 in 5 people on this earth are Muslim. Unfortunately, Westerners have adopted Atheism or Agnosticism mainly as a result of their own culture. If you do not wish to believe, that is your choice. I don't understand why people would even want to take the risk, especially with the presence of people who have near death experiences and they see demons in vivid detail around them before become conscious again. Anyone who says a Muslim, a Christian, or Jew is afraid of individuality is completely false, because you will never, ever know where a Muslim, Christian, or Jew is coming from unless you truely experience God with heart. Once you experience Him, it's impossible to let go. And don't assume I was brainwashed. I found Islam on my own, an un-usual path for a white 18 year old Canadian to follow. I embraced Islam because I found it with my heart, and it made so much more sense to me than Christianity did to me (I strayed from Christianity years ago as a kid). I have always been happy all my life, everything is simply more clear now. I am naturally introverted and have always searched for the meaning of things. I concluded that I believed in God, but did not know how to find him. I eventually learned (much so through the use of LSD) that if there was a God, how would he go about doing things? He would create a place for the bad to punish and purify (Hell isn't forever for everyone in Islam). He would never show himself to man, but He would send messengers for man to follow or reject. If He showed himself, everyone would willingly submit to Him and there would be no test in life, the test to get into Heaven. Eventually he would end it all, and restart. The universe at one point had to have started by a single particle, action, or matter. What created that? How can you say everything happened by itself? Look how complicated life on earth is; I mean, look at the human body. How everything works perfects, how every organ as an importance. You cannot question a believer LeGrouper, and there will always be Kufr on this planet even after the second coming of Isa and the arrival of the Dajjal because they refuse to believe.
"Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will never return to the right path." Qur'an 2:18
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
#548034 - 02/11/02 02:54 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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You make some very valid points, but do you not view buddhism, or hinduism as REAL religions?
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Zahid]
#548036 - 02/11/02 02:56 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Jeepers, that looks like the biggest run-on sentence I've ever seen. Do you breath when you talk? :P
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: ArCh_TemPlaR]
#548059 - 02/11/02 03:14 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Very God like actions my friend! How about answering the question insteat of pulling a SWAMI and being critical? By the way you forgot a couple of words in that last big post smart guy! P.S. two commas in a thought does not constitute a run-on sentence.
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
#548074 - 02/11/02 03:23 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Humor.. humor.. if you didn't noticed -> :P One of my pet peeves, I guess. Big phat paragraphs I dislike to read unless they were broken down to digestable forms..
I am unlike Swami..
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
#548077 - 02/11/02 03:27 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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God is you, and God is me.
I am that I am
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: ]
#548080 - 02/11/02 03:29 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you realize "I AM" translates to EGO? Edit: ooips
Edited by ArCh_TemPlaR (02/11/02 03:31 PM)
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Zahid]
#548084 - 02/11/02 03:37 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh you mean this question I missed, sorry Hygiene.
Show your data then.
I have my views, you have yours.
You made the claim, it is your responsibility to provide more details. I have none as far as views. The only view I have is viewless.. compared to yours
Edited by ArCh_TemPlaR (02/11/02 03:39 PM)
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: ArCh_TemPlaR]
#548090 - 02/11/02 03:41 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I interpret I AM as recognizing our connection with Creation, the God in me acknowledges the God in you. That's how I see it anyway.
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: ArCh_TemPlaR]
#548212 - 02/11/02 05:29 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Got ya on the humor thing! The question I was refering to is weather or not you view buddhism and Hinduism as real religions.
While we at at it, How did you find Islam growing up as a caucasion Canadian?
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
#548401 - 02/11/02 09:28 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are you still talking Arch_Templar?
MentalHygene: Allah is Merciful, and surely those who are Buddhist and Hindu who have never learned the basics of Islam, well be granted Paradise as well, for Islam states that the other religions were also a message from God to call upon a righteous life. But overtime, the messages changed drastically. God will judge by what you know. But upon discovering Islam, and realizing its sincere truth, he should convert and become a Muslim because it is considered the final message of Allah, in the readings of Muhammad (peace be upon him). I became a Muslim about 10 months ago when I started to read about world religions, I became very interested in Islam and my heart felt it.
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