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OfflineMentalHygene
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Does God Exist? part one
    #544039 - 02/07/02 05:49 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

My question is this:
Who here believes in a single, omnipotent, and all knowing GOD? I am trying to do this in two parts. (kind of like a experiment, wich should pleases the swamster!) I am not looking for personal beliefs and theories at this time. (however I will in a future post in part 2) A simple yes or no will do just fine. I know it will be a boring thread untill I collect my "data" as it were, but I promise to get into interesting territory in the second part of this whole charade. For now I just want to put belief or non belief with some names. Thank you for your participation!!!!!!


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InvisibleLallafa
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
    #544077 - 02/07/02 06:20 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

no


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Invisiblecarbonhoots
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
    #544115 - 02/07/02 07:03 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

Why are you putting names with unbelief/belief? Are analysing me/us?


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Offlinenugsarenice
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: carbonhoots]
    #544128 - 02/07/02 07:19 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

Who created Adam and Eve then? If there is no god.

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OfflineMentalHygene
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: carbonhoots]
    #544159 - 02/07/02 07:57 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

Nothing personal, I assure you. I am just using answers to support or not support a theory. your answer is appreciated!


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InvisibleLallafa
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: nugsarenice]
    #544196 - 02/07/02 08:33 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

"Who created Adam and Eve then? If there is no god."
what the fuck kind of retarded logic is that?


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: nugsarenice]
    #544235 - 02/07/02 09:22 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

Who created Adam and Eve then? If there is no god.
The chicken, of course!


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Offlinenugsarenice
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Lallafa]
    #544237 - 02/07/02 09:24 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

God is said to have created adam and eve, if he did not who did? Then there is a god, right?

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InvisiblePynchon
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: nugsarenice]
    #544246 - 02/07/02 09:34 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

I hope that was deadpan humour...

Adam and Eve are part of the Christian creation myth. They were not literally real.

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OfflineDEnoG
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: nugsarenice]
    #544250 - 02/07/02 09:37 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

"God is said to have created adam and eve, if he did not who did? Then there is a god, right?"

I've got to hand it to you. that is some of the funniest shit i've heard in a long time.

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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Pynchon]
    #544305 - 02/07/02 10:57 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

In reply to:



Adam and Eve are part of the Christian creation myth. They were not literally real.




They are a part of Islam too, and they were real and they started the first human tribes. Yes, there is a God. Look how complicated this world is. Only a designing mind could have created it. Look how complicated your body and mind is.


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OfflineDEnoG
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Zahid]
    #544316 - 02/07/02 11:03 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

OH YEAH! Prove it.

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OfflineskaMariaPastora
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: DEnoG]
    #544324 - 02/07/02 11:11 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

You can't argue a case for God with reasoning because nobody has or can have any "evidence" in the traditional sense of the word. Either you feel God or you do not. For those that feel him, he is real. For those that don't, he is not.

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OfflineDEnoG
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: skaMariaPastora]
    #544330 - 02/07/02 11:17 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

Exactly. So saying with absolute certainty that there is a God is foolishness. Beliefs and feelings are just that, not Ultimate Justification.

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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: DEnoG]
    #544335 - 02/07/02 11:25 PM (22 years, 30 days ago)

a god of somesort is beleived to
exist in all/almost cultures.
I believe that the christen god was
created by man to help people have
better morels(sp)? and not to fear
death.
I myself don't believe there is a god,
but the evolution theory that all life
came from a chemical reaction doesn't make sense to me either.
sorry if the sp is bad, I have been
drinking alitle tonight.
peace,
zero


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OfflineMentalHygene
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: zero]
    #544426 - 02/08/02 12:56 AM (22 years, 30 days ago)

If Christianity was created to help with not fearing death, then it has failed miserably in my opinion. Christianity, as well as all organized religions is based on fear and guilt. Both of wich are used to keep members of the respective churches in "Check" . How else could someone possibly be led to believe that donation for a better place of worship is necesary to be close to God. If the preechers on t.v. are wearing more bling bling than P. Diddy in his latest video, I have a hard time believing that they are in it for god!


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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
    #544766 - 02/08/02 11:14 AM (22 years, 29 days ago)

I find it difficult to play along with your game. It would also be wrong to say that there is no definite answer, because there definitely is a definite answer. But it is not a "yes" or "no" answer. It is not even any answer in any existing human languages. To elaborate I will present some sides of the question "Is there God?"

Is there a thing that is God? No.
Where are all the things coming from? From God.
Where is God? Nowhere.

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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: MentalHygene]
    #544776 - 02/08/02 11:23 AM (22 years, 29 days ago)

no, not as an external omnipotent entity
as a word then yes i believe god is a word that can be used heedlessly


look under my name over to the right a little bit, that's all the proof you need

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OfflineArCh_TemPlaR
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Swami]
    #544840 - 02/08/02 12:41 PM (22 years, 29 days ago)

The chicken, of course!

Ahahah.. I seriously need you for my debate team vs. xianism

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OfflineArCh_TemPlaR
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Re: Does God Exist? part one [Re: Zahid]
    #544848 - 02/08/02 12:50 PM (22 years, 29 days ago)

Zahid:

They are a part of Islam too, and they were real and they started the first human tribes. Yes, there is a God. Look how complicated this world is. Only a designing mind could have created it. Look how complicated your body and mind is.

You got perspective about God's "first human tribes." I see no way Yahweh could account for other ethnicities developed through history. Even if there is a Presence, it does not mean Universal Totality.. I just don't recongize the ethocentrism of xianists. This world's progressive complexity cannot be reduced to absolute relativism. It's not even tangential.. It's grasping for the fibers of the air!

As for the question, you didn't define the versions of God so I will: Xian-God is a no.

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