fivepointer said:

To all the mockers, scoffers, and false religionists you had better hope that scripture is a lie for if it is true:

2Th 1:7-10
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

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Middleman said:

I don't have to hope, I KNOW the bible is a lie, I could prove it in court.

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MushroomTrip said:

Ok, have it your way.
But I'm telling you, that nigger won't help you unless you beg.

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fivepointer said:

You have rejected the truth so you are calling God a liar.

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fivepointer said:

2Th 2:10-12
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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fivepointer said:

They are not Christians.

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Nor is anyone who questions the infallible interpretation of fivepointer.

fivepointer said:

The problem with the "Gnostic" gospel is it can not be reconciled with scripture.

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fivepointer said:

More useless psycho-babble from the master of heterodoxy. The problem with the "Gnostic" gospel is it can not be reconciled with scripture. Gnostics reject sola scriptura and infallibility of scripture, the Trinity, original sin, the power of the Holy Spirit, eternal punishment, the Deity and even existence of Jesus Christ. They are not Christians.

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Jesus is the Anti-Christ, imo.

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MushroomTrip said:

Hmm is was a slight form of sarcasm towards those beliefs. I never expected for someone to take my first comment as being serious

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Middleman said:

fivepointer said:

More useless psycho-babble from the master of heterodoxy.  The problem with the "Gnostic" gospel is it can not be reconciled with scripture.  Gnostics reject sola scriptura and infallibility of scripture, the Trinity, original sin, the power of the Holy Spirit, eternal punishment, the Deity and even existence of Jesus Christ.  They are not Christians.

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I agree with Markos, he's smart and stuff.

But I'd like to throw a few more words at your brick wall anyway.

The Essenes practiced Christianity before Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus is the Anti-Christ, imo.
The violence committed by The Roman Church throughout history and the behavior of modern fundamentalists proves this to be true.

I mean would the true Godchild's emblem really be a dead guy hanging on a tree? No, THAT is the "abomination that causes desolation" imo.

Many Gnostics have understood this:

"In its mystical sense, the Egyptian cross owes its origin, as an emblem, to the realization by the earliest philosophy of an androgynous dualism of every manifestation in nature, which proceeds from the abstract ideal of a likewise androgynous deity, while the Christian emblem is simply due to chance. Had the Mosaic law prevailed, Jesus should have been lapidated. The crucifix was an instrument of torture, and utterly common among Romans as it was unknown among Semitic nations. It was called the "Tree of Infamy." It is but later that it was adopted as a Christian symbol; but, during the first two decades, the apostles looked upon it with horror. It is certainly not the Christian Cross that John had in mind when speaking of the "signet of the living God," but the mystic Tau -- the Tetragrammaton, or mighty name, which, on the most ancient kabalistic talismans, was represented by the four Hebrew letters composing the Holy Word." H.P. Blavatsky's Isis Unveiled

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Now, if all of you really knew the bible, you would see everything with such clarity. Here is a brief summary, with all you need to understand:

In the beginning, which occurred near the start, there was nothing but God, darkness, and some gas. The Bible says, "The Lord thy God is one,"
But I think He must be a lot older than that.  Anyway, God said, "Give me a light!" and someone did.  Then God made the world.

He split the Adam and made Eve. Adam and Eve were naked, but they weren't embarrassed because mirrors hadn't been invented yet. Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating one bad apple, so they were driven from the Garden of Eden.  Not sure what they were driven in though, because they didn't have cars.

Adam and Eve had a son, Cain, who hated his brother as long as he was Abel.  Pretty soon all of the early people died off, except for
Methuselah, who lived to be like a million or something.

One of the next important people was Noah, who was a good guy, but one of his kids was kind of a ham.  Noah built a large boat and put his family and some animals on it.  He asked some other people to join him, but they said they would have to take a rain check.

After Noah came Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.  Jacob was more famous than his brother, Esau, because Esau sold Jacob his birthmark in exchange for some pot roast.  Jacob had a son named Joseph who wore a really loud sports coat.

Another important Bible guy is Moses, whose real name was Charlton Heston.  Moses led the Israel Lights out of Egypt and away from the evil Pharaoh after God sent ten plagues on Pharaoh's people.  These plagues included frogs, mice, lice, bowels, and no cable.  God fed the Israel Lights every day with manicotti. Then He gave them His top ten Commandments. These include don't lie, cheat, smoke, dance, or covet your neighbor's bottom (the Bible uses a bad word for bottom that I'm not supposed to say.  But my Dad uses it sometimes when he talks about the President).  Oh, yeah, I just thought of one more:  Humor they father and they mother.

One of Moses' best helpers was Joshua who was the first Bible guy to use spies.  Joshua fought the battle of Geritol and the fence fell over on the town.

After Joshua came David.  He got to be king by killing a giant with a slingshot.  He had a son named Solomon who had about 300 wives and 500 Porcupines.  My teacher says he was wise, but that doesn't sound very wise to me.  After Solomon there were a bunch of major league prophets.  One of these was Jonah, who was swallowed by a big whale and then barfed up on the shore.

There were also some minor league prophets, but I guess we don't have to worry about them.

After the Old Testament came the New Testament.  Jesus is the star of the New Testament.  He was born in Bethlehem in a barn.  (I wish I had been born in a barn, too, because my mom is always saying to me, "Close the door! Were you born in a barn?"  It would be nice to say, "As a matter of fact, I was.")

During His life, Jesus had many arguments with sinners like the
Pharisees and the Republicans.  Jesus also had twelve opossums. The worst one was Judas Asparagus.  Judas was so evil that they named a terrible vegetable after him.
Jesus was a great man.  He healed many leopards and even preached to some Germans on the Mount.  But the Republicans and all those guys put Jesus on trial before Pontius the Pilot.  Pilot didn't stick up for Jesus.  He just washed his hands instead.

Anyways, Jesus died for our sins, then came back to life again.  He went up to Heaven but will be back at the end of the Aluminum.  His return is foretold in the book of Revolution.     

Get the point?