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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Smack31]
    #957652 - 10/13/02 08:05 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: World Spirit]
    #957825 - 10/13/02 09:11 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

For a guy that doesn't respond, you sure are busy responding with the links. I do think Sclorch has a point.


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Evolving]
    #957857 - 10/13/02 09:22 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: World Spirit]
    #957947 - 10/13/02 09:50 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Finally snap?

Trying posting the links in one post in the future. We try to keep spam to a minimum in here.

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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Swami]
    #957968 - 10/13/02 09:57 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Jesus was not a Christian.
 




duh.
the word christian means "little christ" or "like christ". of course jesus didn't worship the christian god. he IS the christian god. much like ras tafari/haile selassie is the rastafari god.

by the way...hey guys, long time no see...miss me? :wink: :grin: :smirk: 


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #957977 - 10/13/02 10:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Can you change the link in your sig? It is making every thread you post in go wide. Use the link feature and type in 'go here' or something.

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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #957997 - 10/13/02 10:09 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: World Spirit]
    #958088 - 10/13/02 10:53 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

sweet! i'm loved by one! hey plato, is that better for my sig line?
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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Sclorch]
    #958183 - 10/13/02 11:22 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Of all the things I find endearing in an individual, I do say that being succinct is in the upper echelon. Therefore Sclorch, you are a neccesity.

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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Sclorch]
    #958406 - 10/14/02 12:34 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Technically, according to the major forms of modern christianity, Jesus did worship the same god that Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship today.


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Remy]
    #958450 - 10/14/02 12:50 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Technically, according to the major forms of modern christianity, Jesus did worship the same god that Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship today.

Makes you think doesn't it? :smile: I'm not even sure how there can be a 'different God' with each religion - since each religion teaches to worship "the One God". If you worship the one God (with true monotheism), obviously it's the only God.


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #958575 - 10/14/02 01:26 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

You got it big fella!
:smile:

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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Remy]
    #959167 - 10/14/02 07:36 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Technically, according to the major forms of modern christianity, Jesus did worship the same god that Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship today.

Actually.... NO, he didn't.
But he did raise hell in the temple.


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Sclorch]
    #959359 - 10/14/02 11:28 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Actually.... NO, he didn't. 




right...he didn't, he worshipped.... Sclorch !!!!!!! :grin: 


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #959842 - 10/14/02 03:41 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Even if that were logically possible... nope, he wouldn't have.


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Sclorch]
    #959881 - 10/14/02 03:58 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Jesus believed in God, a christian is a "follower of christ" who believes in the same God Jesus talked about.

So why doesn't Jesus believe in the same god as a christians?


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Sclorch]
    #959884 - 10/14/02 03:58 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Even if that were logically possible... nope, he wouldn't have.

Why not?


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Zahid]
    #959948 - 10/14/02 04:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Sclorch: Even if that were logically possible... nope, he wouldn't have.
Zahid: Why not?
Rather than continue arguing...

Check out these excerpts from The "Scholars' Translation" of the Gospel of Thomas

1 And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

It's a terrible tragedy that this line is not found in the Bible.
A similar phrase is found in the Bible, "He who believes in me shall not taste death but have eternal life"... but it just doesn't have the same effect.

3 Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."


Think Jesus might?ve been familiar with Socrates? If he wasn?t, Didymos Judas Thomas was.

9 Jesus said, Look, the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered (them). Some fell on the road, and the birds came and gathered them. Others fell on rock, and they didn't take root in the soil and didn't produce heads of grain. Others fell on thorns, and they choked the seeds and worms ate them. And others fell on good soil, and it produced a good crop: it yielded sixty per measure and one hundred twenty per measure.

Ah? the old nature/nurture argument brought together with a beautiful analogy.

29 Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, that is a marvel, but if spirit came into being because of the body, that is a marvel of marvels.
Yet I marvel at how this great wealth has come to dwell in this poverty."

It just doesn?t get any better than that.
39 Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the scholars have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They have not entered nor have they allowed those who want to enter to do so.
As for you, be as sly as snakes and as simple as doves."


I?ll stop here. If you haven?t read it before, please do.


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Sclorch]
    #959954 - 10/14/02 04:27 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I am convinced that the early christians subscribed to a religion that was more like the Gospel of Thomas (which reads like Zen). Too bad a fucker like Constantine (a control freak, no doubt) re-wrote the Bible and left alot of useful information out.


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Re: Jesus didn't believe in the Christian God. [Re: Sclorch]
    #959996 - 10/14/02 04:42 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

AMEN to that! That Phucking(or not ,that is the problem I believe) misogynist Paul has left a legacy of shame upon the following of Christ.That and endless revision of politicly incorrect gospel Peace WR :grin:


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