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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Effed]
    #1846414 - 08/24/03 09:35 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting question.

\Why do you ask?

Just curious.


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Anonymous

Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: ]
    #1846445 - 08/24/03 09:46 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

dude, he didnt give us a definition.

how can you ask people that with no defintion.

*dumbfounded*


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: ]
    #1846831 - 08/24/03 11:58 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I'm fairly sure that there are forms of control / influence beyond our current comprehension, but I'm not sure if I'm ready to believe that at the center of it all there is a being worthy of the title "god". perhaps, perhaps not, but there's most definitely some crazy shit out there, or in there, or here or whatever.


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Effed]
    #1846854 - 08/25/03 12:07 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

The poll is inherently flawed, in that the No answer involves making a clear statement of 'fact' - "There is no god" - instead of leaving it at simply "No, I don't believe in a god". The two statements are distinctly different.


Ultimatley, I do believe in the existence of at least one consciousness (my own). It thus follows that there must be some kind of supreme consciousness, regardless of whether it is myself, another being, or an amalgamation consisting of myself and others; thus, in a sense, I could reasonably say I believe in the existence of some kind of god (defined as the supreme/highest conciousness) from the evidence of my own consciousness, but I do not know its nature.


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Diploid]
    #1846910 - 08/25/03 12:31 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Have you ever felt, seen, or heard an electron?


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Effed]
    #1846935 - 08/25/03 12:42 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

What is God?


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: ]
    #1846939 - 08/25/03 12:43 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

This thread was inspired by this past weekends journeys.

I believe the collective of poeple if united as one, are "god" or a godlike force.
I was just curious how the shroomery folk felt.  :smile:


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Autonomous]
    #1846953 - 08/25/03 12:49 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I am going by the scientific definition of "god" I suppose.

8 entries found for god.
god ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gd)
n.
God
A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
A very handsome man.
A powerful ruler or despot.



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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Effed]
    #1847116 - 08/25/03 01:47 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

My personal belief is that God is an everlasting spirit which was never created and will never be destroyed.. God is the light and the darkness...


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: GanjaManDan]
    #1847118 - 08/25/03 01:48 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Btw - I fully 100% believe in God (from the Bible of course) based solely on personal experiences.. No one will ever change what I believe


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: ]
    #1847127 - 08/25/03 01:50 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Has anyone else noticed that Diploid who said he didn't believe in God, well his quote thinger talks about God. hehe. not making fun just pointing out something i thought was kinda funny


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1847521 - 08/25/03 05:42 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Strumpling said:
We're the closest thing to God that I've discovered...




So true... you know what though in my opinion, maybe we had a connection to another Superior species (extraterestrial) Back at the begening of civilization, i mean i ve read about Egyptians having 'landing' and taking off fields way before airplanes were invented and also they have a diagram on how to use a giant ;ight baulb. Think about all the stiff that is in the bibles of almost all religions. makes you wonder if we really came up with the technology we have or it was passed down to us. I know i read the Christian bible alot growing up and belive me the God that they worship in those Genesis/Exodus period is far from perfect, so thats why i dont belive in that mystical being that sees everything and knows all, and will one day kill us slowly for sinning.


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Effed]
    #1847545 - 08/25/03 06:06 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

False dilemma.

Where is the "No, I have no reason to believe in God"?
And what about the "Yes, I am God"?

Also, you left out YOUR definition of God.


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Sclorch]
    #1847553 - 08/25/03 06:14 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Sclorch said:
And what about the "Yes, I am God"?




I second that notion!


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: ]
    #1847586 - 08/25/03 06:43 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

God and religion is a way of explaining the unexplainable.



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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: trendal]
    #1847590 - 08/25/03 06:46 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Have you ever felt, seen, or heard an electron?





Of course not. Evidence isn't only presented through feeling, seeing, or hearing. There is an avalanche of evidence supporting the existence of the electron. There are many, many observations and measurements that support the Atomic Theory. The incineration of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, for example. The electricity generated at the Turkey Point Nuclear Power Plant south of me for example. The chemical reactions I can make happen in my kitchen for example. I've never seen Pluto in my telescope, but I see its influence on the other planets. C'mon, geeze! To suggest that there is no evidence supporting the existence of the electron is naive at best.

-Diploid


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Pyronate]
    #1847644 - 08/25/03 08:07 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Ultimatley, I do believe in the existence of at least one consciousness (my own). It thus follows that there must be some kind of supreme consciousness, regardless of whether it is myself, another being, or an amalgamation consisting of myself and others;



A supreme consciousness does not necessarily follow. There could be an endless progression of greater and greater consciousness with no final supreme consciousness.


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #1847645 - 08/25/03 08:09 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Has anyone else noticed that Diploid who said he didn't believe in God, well his quote thinger talks about God. hehe. not making fun just pointing out something i thought was kinda funny



Well, mention of a fictional character does not require any belief in its existence...


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: ]
    #1847647 - 08/25/03 08:15 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

That is to complex to answer with those 3 choices you gave. This questions is brought up so much, and I don't like answer it everytime.


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Re: Do You Believe In God? [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1847664 - 08/25/03 08:39 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Where's the I believe "I am God" option ?  :oogle:  :nut:  :grin: 


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