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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: Shroomism]
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But what about revelations? If these creatures made us only by altering what was already here, where do they find right to burn the entire ecosystem and poison all the oceans in the end?


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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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I thought we were the ones burning the ecosystem and poisoning the oceans?


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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: Shroomism]
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Not nearly as much as is described...

It is described that ALL life in oceans will die in one pass,
that no mountain on earth shall stay in its place etc. etc.
People will be tortured for 5 months by, they will ask for death but get no death, after that they will be killed pretty grim
Sadistic even, the worse text in the bible


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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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oh yeah. The whole "the stars reel back and a third of the rivers turn red".. that whole deal sounds more like a sudden pole shift than anything else I can think of.


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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: Shroomism]
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There are always those 'chariots of the gods' type thinkers who are essentially materialistic reductionists, and who wish to explain scriptural writings by interpreting them only as historical events - even events in which their Mysteries are reduced to extraterrestrial, yet physical life-forms. If the understanding of scriptural writings was made clear to these interpreters, namely, the midrashic style of ancient Hebrews, they would not attempt to project their modernist and sci-fi views upon ancient writings.

I agree about multi-dimensional beings - not from a sci-fi view, but rather from a spiritual view. The "giants" mentioned once in the Bible derive from the Books of Enoch, the first of which is a mythos of the fallen angels, their lust for human women, and the hybrid "giants" their mating produced. I have encountered individuals at this forum who claimed to be Nephilim - an interesting variation of a Christ delusion in all probability.

The interpretation of myth, of dreams and of visionary states should not be construed as a primitive, prescientific explanation of physical-historical events. There are apparent references - if only in carved illustrations - of what might be taken for extraterrestrial visitors (we must respect the powers of astronomical observation of many ancient peoples: Druids, Chaldeans, etc.), and if these peoples wanted it to be clear that 'beings' were space-time travelers in vehicles rather than 'beings' belonging to a spiritual hierarchy, they assuredly could have done so. On the other hand, if seemingly embodied 'beings' were seen to 'beam down' so-to-speak, then transdimensional and spiritual would no doubt be impossible to differentiate. Nevertheless, scriptural references, until shown to be otherwise, ought to be interpreted along psychospiritual lines, not physical lines.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: Swami]
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Swami said:
If one were to know that one's teachings would be misued by future generations to the detriment of many, would you still preach anyway?



Yes.


You cant control what people do with information.

Some will try and turn it in to a money making business....others will take it for the guidance it was intended for.


Keeping the information a secret because of a few bad people is kinda foolish.


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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
Swami said:
If one were to know that one's teachings would be misued by future generations to the detriment of many, would you still preach anyway?



Yes.


You cant control what people do with information.

Some will try and turn it in to a money making business....others will take it for the guidance it was intended for.


Keeping the information a secret because of a few bad people is kinda foolish.


This begs the question: Would the world be better or worse off without Christianity. Despite the amount of violence that it inspired, Christians have also done many good things for the world. Many charities today are Christian, and several Christians such as Mother Theresa have gone to great lengths to fight poverty. Whether on balance it's a net gain or a net loss, I don't know. I wouldn't entirely discount the possibility that Christianity may have made the world a better place overall.


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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: Silversoul]
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When "people" turn a "teaching" into an "organized religion"..........that is when the trouble starts.







I believe the "teachings" of the Christian bible, but dont consider myself to be a "christian". I do not believe them to all be historical FACTS .......just stories with a moral point.


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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: Swami]
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Swami said:
If I were to start some teachings (even though true and of a higher order)


What about the splitting of the atom?


This is both true and of a high order.



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that I KNEW (omnisicence) would be distorted and twisted in future generations by power brokers to torture and suppress and wage war,



Good and bad can come from this truth.

War and cheap energy.



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I would keep my mouth shut out of compassion.  :heart:



I would still bring the truth out. :cheers:



Its going to come out eventually.



May as well put MY name in the history books.  :shrug:






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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: niteowl]
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I quote Paramahansa Yogananda from the "Second coming of Christ" - The resurrection of the Christ Within You.

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There is a distinguishing difference of meaning between Jesus and Christ. His give name was Jesus; his honorific tittle was "Christ". In his little human body called Jesus was born the vast Christ Consciousness, the omniscient intelligence of God omnipresent in every part and particle of creation. This Consciousness is the "only begotten Son of God," so designated because it is the sole perfect reflection in creation of the Transcendental Absolute, Spirit or God the Father.


It was of that Infinite Consciousness, replete with love and bliss of God, that Saint John spoke when he said: "As many as received him [the Christ Consciousness], to them gave he power to become the sons of God." * Thus according to Jesus' own teachings as recorded by his most highly advanced apostle, John, all souls who become united with the Christ Consciousness by intuitive Self-realization are rightly called sons of God.




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"It is never a question of belief; the only scientific attitude one can take on any subject is whether it is true. The law of gravitation worked as efficiently before Newton as after him. The cosmos would be fairly chaotic if its laws could not operate without the sanction of human belief." -- Sri Yukteswar

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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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A little addition to my views on the matter before this thread goes to graveyard of threads


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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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OldWoodSpecter - But could you not believe by being with jesus you are one step closer to God? Jesus was giving gifts. For who not but the creator has giving him these gifts.


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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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OldWoodSpecter - But could you not believe by being with jesus you are one step closer to God? Jesus was giving gifts. For who not but the creator has giving him these gifts. Maybe the God of the sun has all those gifts.


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Re: Unlikely that Jesus is God [Re: Droz]
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And enlightened alien is no different from some spiritual being comming from the other side. The message is the same, nothing changes.


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