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Lady Kills Children on Word from God
    #2526622 - 04/05/04 06:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"Psychiatrists testified that Laney believed she was divinely chosen by God - just as Mary was chosen to bear Christ - to kill her children as a test of faith and then serve as a witness after the world ended. In a videotape played at her trial, Laney said she saw her youngest son play with a spear, hold a rock and squeeze a frog, and took them all as signs from God that she should kill her children. "

full story here

I was going to make a comment about faith and signs and the coming Apocolypse, but then I remembered that we are not allowed to question another's beliefs as that is impolite so I will state no opinion about listening to those voices in your head nor about God's will.

A frequent tenet espoused here is that "All beliefs have equal validity". Umm, OK...

How many times have I been asked how unsubstantiated beliefs could possibly be dangerous in any way?


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: Swami]
    #2526964 - 04/05/04 11:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: Swami]
    #2527108 - 04/05/04 12:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well, can anyone prove that God wasn't speaking to her? :wink:


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: Swami]
    #2527113 - 04/05/04 12:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

so now she will live in misery as she listens to crazy people who think they are chickens... locked away, in a blank lifeless world, where she can no longer harm another person by her "unsubstantiated beliefs" :wink:. Which is a good thing i think. Well if she isnt crazy.. and was just lying. Maybe shes stuck in her own hell  :confused:. Good point  :wink:


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    #2527141 - 04/05/04 12:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: bert]
    #2527148 - 04/05/04 12:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thats because god is our lord and savior, and drugs are tools of THE DEVIL!!!!


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: Swami]
    #2527152 - 04/05/04 12:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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All beliefs have equal validity




I agree that the notion is absurd, that Woman believing that God was telling her what to do is no defence of what she did.


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: Swami]
    #2527187 - 04/05/04 12:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

very good point swami as this is one of the many dangers you reffered to.

now referring to all beliefs have the same validity, I don't know if I've seen to much about that said on this boad. I've seen respect most people's beliefs, but nothing about how VALID the belief is. Saying a belief is valid in ANY way is nonsense, isn't it?


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: Jackal]
    #2527341 - 04/05/04 01:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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All beliefs have equal validity




I agree that the notion is absurd, that Woman believing that God was telling her what to do is no defence of what she did.



But what if she was right? What if God really did tell her to kill her kids? Then we'd have to put God on trial.


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: silversoul7]
    #2527363 - 04/05/04 02:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

but if god is god, and it told her too, then it wasn't a crime. if god is god, it is judge and jury.


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: silversoul7]
    #2527395 - 04/05/04 02:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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But what if she was right? What if God really did tell her to kill her kids? Then we'd have to put God on trial.




Well that makes it just as wrong. I would burn in hell for my children. Is there anybody who would say different. The woman was crazy or really really just didn't give a shit about her kids. If god did tell you to do it you should be questioning god not yourself.


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: phreakyzen]
    #2527411 - 04/05/04 02:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That's exactly why I said we need to put God on trial. He's an accomplice in this crime.


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: silversoul7]
    #2527430 - 04/05/04 02:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

you're missing the point. if you believe in god. and you believe that he commands you to do things for him. then you believe that he is infallible.


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: silversoul7]
    #2527490 - 04/05/04 02:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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That's exactly why I said we need to put God on trial.




And how do you propose we put God on trial?



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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: silversoul7]
    #2527643 - 04/05/04 03:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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silversoul7 said:
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Jackal said:
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All beliefs have equal validity




I agree that the notion is absurd, that Woman believing that God was telling her what to do is no defence of what she did.



But what if she was right? What if God really did tell her to kill her kids? Then we'd have to put God on trial.




Now I'm only playing Devil's Advocate here because spiritually I'm in Limbo:

If you believe in the existence of God, and are a follower as this woman is, then why doesn't she listen to his teachings. God asked us to love thy neighbour he wouldn't ask any of us to hurt another. She's being hipocritical. She'd been better off saying Satan made her do it!

I obviously don't know the ins and outs of this case, but that Woman is a human-being capable of making her own decisions. Killing her own children was one of them - a decision ultimately made by her.


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: Jackal]
    #2527679 - 04/05/04 03:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

along with your stance of diabolical advocacy: the bible says god ordered abraham to kill his son. (right..? did he do it?)


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2527695 - 04/05/04 03:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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silversoul7 said:
That's exactly why I said we need to put God on trial.




And how do you propose we put God on trial?






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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: hevvy_psi]
    #2527703 - 04/05/04 03:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No, the Christian God wouldn't make someone kill another just to prove his faith.


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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: Swami]
    #2527722 - 04/05/04 03:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If God told me to kill someone, I would tell Him to shut the fuck up. :lol:
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Re: Lady Kills Children on Word from God [Re: Jackal]
    #2527733 - 04/05/04 03:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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No, the Christian God wouldn't make someone kill another just to prove his faith.




Maybe not the Christian "God", but the Christian Alien who used to fly around and fuck with people in the old times would. :grin: Abraham! Kill your son!

'Course, that alien is long gone, or at least not fucking with people anymore, but yet the beliefs in him as a "God" go on....

:shocked: Maybe the alien is back! Repent and ya'll shall done and be saved!  :smirk:

Any belief that involves killing people, especially your own children, is wrong.  :nonono:
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