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lucid
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Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

#1947619 - 09/24/03 01:21 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i.e. no Hell no judgement no condemnation ?
A God who loves u so darn much that u cannot
even begin to comprehend...
And I mean completely unattached, unconditional love

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1947645 - 09/24/03 01:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I do not think that God exists in mans image. Hell, judgement, condemnation, love... these are manmade concepts.

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1947650 - 09/24/03 01:29 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I believe that our universe is a division of one of the small cells in... oh, I don't know, God's right eye.
Peace.

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1947670 - 09/24/03 01:34 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
I believe that our universe is a division of one of the small cells in... oh, I don't know, God's right eye.
Peace.

That must be it, left one's patched :lol:

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1947671 - 09/24/03 01:35 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, he is unconditionally loving, but also just and holy. He never condemns people to hell, we send ourselves there. I just can't wait to see the replies after this post!

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1947683 - 09/24/03 01:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Funguy said:
Yes, he is unconditionally loving, but also just and holy. He never condemns people to hell, we send ourselves there. I just can't wait to see the replies after this post!

So, what exactly is Hell?
Peace.

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1947700 - 09/24/03 01:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
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Funguy said:
Yes, he is unconditionally loving, but also just and holy. He never condemns people to hell, we send ourselves there. I just can't wait to see the replies after this post!

So, what exactly is Hell?
Peace.

Eternal Exruciating Infinite Pain/Despair/Suffering beyond your
wildest immagination...in short, un-fun :rolleyes:

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1947768 - 09/24/03 01:57 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Hm..... what causes this suffering beyond your wildest imagination (keep in mind that my imagination is pretty fucking wild)?
Peace.

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1947799 - 09/24/03 02:03 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
Hm..... what causes this suffering beyond your wildest imagination (keep in mind that my imagination is pretty fucking wild)?
Peace.

Doing anything to invoke the wrath of God...
The list is too long to type here...He's kinda touchy...

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1947818 - 09/24/03 02:07 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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lucid said:
Doing anything to invoke the wrath of God...
The list is too long to type here...He's kinda touchy...

The wrath of God.. why would God have wrath? Does God even know about his Creation, or does his Creation like compose him?
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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1947846 - 09/24/03 02:15 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
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lucid said:
Doing anything to invoke the wrath of God...
The list is too long to type here...He's kinda touchy...

The wrath of God.. why would God have wrath? Does God even know about his Creation, or does his Creation like compose him?
Peace.

Man u obviously havn't been reading the right books ! :lol:

All those ideas u have n all those Neal Walsh books r all
the work of the Devil. Read some ol Scripture by those
people who had nothing of monotary value at stake...
God has told us of his wrath and "furious anger"....
in so many words :smirk:

it's all true u know...it's been pounded into me from
generations... and Fear is what keeps it all going...

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1948001 - 09/24/03 02:57 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1948009 - 09/24/03 03:00 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

to err is human

to forgive is divine

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1948032 - 09/24/03 03:07 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

The idea of hell is pure insanity.

Torture makes no sense whatsoever. Especially eternal torment!

What would be the point in it?

Torture is used by humans to control another person in some way. It is has also been used to conduct experiments.

What purpose would eternal torture serve? :confused:

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1948057 - 09/24/03 03:15 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
I do not think that God exists in mans image. Hell, judgement, condemnation, love... these are manmade concepts.

Good answer. :thumbup:

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#1948089 - 09/24/03 03:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1948166 - 09/24/03 03:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Enter said:
Here's my take on the matter:

God loves humanity but God loathes some humans AND they're actions. This sounds tough on the ears but I really am convinced of this.

God is a Creator who gave humans quite a bit of options in what to do with our lives (in terms of specifics). He gave us the ability to love one another, hate one another, or be indifferent to love and hate. Certainly love should be esteemed more than hate and more than indifference (numbness).

Therefore, if love is esteemed more than hate (as being far better), all living beings (including God) must "feel" different about love and hate. Love and hate each cause a different reaction.

I'm sure many of you have either felt love for at least a few minutes if not much longer. I'm also sure all of you have experienced more than a fair share of hatred towards you (whether on a sublte or blatant level). There should be no question that the two are VERY VERY DIFFERENT experiences.

God (being our overseer) must despise those who choose hatred as a subtle or blatant path. God (being our caretaker at times) must despise those who do us evil. God (being loving toward humanity) gives each human the time for repentance to turn away from a "mode" of hatred, but if unwilling, that person will reap the very anger of God.

Why would a creator give the ability to it's creation to
damn itself ?
If I were to design an arificially intelligent machine
would I give it the ability to torture itself eternally ?
wouldn't seem very compassionte of me...

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1948172 - 09/24/03 03:57 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Um... so, we know then that there is something that we can damn ourselves to, then?
Peace.

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1948178 - 09/24/03 04:00 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

> Um... so, we know then that there is something that we can damn ourselves to, then?

To be reborn and live again. :smile:

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Re: Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?

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#1948179 - 09/24/03 04:00 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
Um... so, we know then that there is something that we can damn ourselves to, then?
Peace.

Yup, according to the books I've been readin :smirk:

kinda scary, it's quite easy to doom ourselves too...
taking intoxicants is one of the methods as is
questioning God or his existance (as in this thread),
I'm doomed :confused:

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