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Gang Rape
    #3689684 - 01/27/05 05:25 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

yeah,touchy subject for some im sure.

but whatever! i was just thinking: Do men gang rape a female not because "the bitch deserved it", but maybe they (on a sub-concious level) are just using the female as a vehicle to sexualy interact with eachother?

because if they just had anal sex with eachother...then their gay, but if they are having sex with a woman....it's just heterosexual desire.

its fuckin sick i know, but what do ya'll think? does it make sense?


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: uriahchase]
    #3689757 - 01/27/05 05:34 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

:shrug:

You sound like you could've been a good psychologist under Freud.

It is possible, but is it more likely that they gang rape because they work together to achieve the goal, that is raping a woman, or because they are secretly homosexual? While the latter may be true in some cases, I think the simpler answer may be true for most in this case.


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: Ravus]
    #3689987 - 01/27/05 06:13 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I see the fact that you use homosexuality as a joke would mean you would be afraid to touch a man for scientific purposes.

Homosexuality is not a joke and would be better left alone, thanks.

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Re: Gang Rape [Re: uriahchase]
    #3690321 - 01/27/05 07:40 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The most powerfull warlike monkeys of some species actually attack other groups of more peacefull monkeys in gerilla style, draw away the males or kill them, and then rape the females.

I think it's in their (our) genes, not just the urge to have sex, but to rape. But of course depending on out personal level of mental development we can make love, or have sex, or rape.
It's like cooking, you have all the engredients, and you chose which of those to mix and what dish to cook in the end.
And if you are really a good shef, you will get compliments from everyone and your own subconsciousness.


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: uriahchase]
    #3690473 - 01/27/05 08:08 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

yueah, i've heard that rape isnt a sexual act, its a violent act. I'm not saying I agree with that in 100$ of the situations, but applying that theory to you "it's just heterosexual desire" comment, I come up with something like: they're using it as a way to show to each other how tough they are.

I can't understand how gang raping would be way to gain popularity, but I can't really understand anything most ppl do.

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And yeah, sure. You're probably right, too. Not that that is always the case, but I'm sure some people have used that buffer, consiously or unconsiously.


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: skystone]
    #3690819 - 01/27/05 08:59 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

skystone, i actually talked to an anthropologist who has done feild work as well as research and is currently a college professor on the subjest, he talked about how primates doing that, and the genetic possibilty, but he made very good counterpoints. he used baboons as examples. with then the male is usually much larger and more agressive by nature, but this has a lot to do with their physical features. he made the point that if humans were to say that because old world primates do it, its our nature they have to take into account that if you wanted to evenly compare the 2, according to him, assuming the female was about 5', the male would have to be about 8'5" with foot long canines. this would be intimidating enough to rape without much consequence, but when they females are about the same size, theres more of a chance for fighting back. the primates which do this seem to be built to do it, while humans are closer to equal between sexes. also, i do belive that rape is sometimes violence and sometimes sex, i mean, fuck, some people are that desparate, or it could be the sex/violence combo, its generally accepted that the 2 have direct effects on each other. there are so many inconclusive rape studys out there, pick up a psychology journal at the library, youll prob find one.

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Re: Gang Rape [Re: skystone]
    #3690833 - 01/27/05 09:00 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Its more of an attraction to that which we cannot have.

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Re: Gang Rape [Re: Catalysis]
    #3691712 - 01/27/05 11:21 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

well if you think about it having anal sex with a female and having anal sex with a male are not that far off from one another, same hole.


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: incubaby_421]
    #3691724 - 01/27/05 11:25 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

So getting head from a female and getting head from a male are not far apart? Same hole after all.

It doesn't matter what "holes" you use, both females and males have tongues, lips, legs, but the person's gender (XX or XY) it is what makes the difference between anal or oral sex with a male or a female. At the very level of DNA there is a difference between the two, even if they do share some "holes".


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: Ravus]
    #3691744 - 01/27/05 11:34 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

no not really, my girlfreind raised this point to me the other day in a conversation about anal sex, i didnt agree, but it is a different view than most, well most guys view at least, i personally would say that having anal sex with a female is very different from a male. very very very very very very different.


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: uriahchase]
    #3691773 - 01/27/05 11:45 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Gang rape is probably a lot of things. All kinds of twisted and repressed emotional and psychological disorders for one. A general disrespect for woman, and thus oneself. Low self-esteem, repressed homosexual desires, whatever.. I'm sure the list goes on.


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: uriahchase]
    #3691777 - 01/27/05 11:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Men gang rape women is more related to something of dominance. Its just forbidden fruit. Men think its that much better because its in general society is an act of rebellion.

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Re: Gang Rape [Re: Shroomism]
    #3691781 - 01/27/05 11:49 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomism said:
Gang rape is probably a lot of things. All kinds of twisted and repressed emotional and psychological disorders for one. A general disrespect for woman, and thus oneself. Low self-esteem, repressed homosexual desires, whatever.. I'm sure the list goes on.





True is as. Well in this debate you just have to ask yourself. Nature or Nurture. Of course it could be environmental

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Re: Gang Rape [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3691789 - 01/27/05 11:53 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I would say a lot of it is due to the male-dominated society and the disrespect woman have had to endure for a long time.


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: Shroomism]
    #3691801 - 01/27/05 11:56 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Most males do not like it when a female expresses her sexuality or is promiscuous, but in society is encouraged for men to be promiscuous.

Exactly what it is a male-dominated socielty

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Re: Gang Rape [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3691816 - 01/28/05 12:00 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

aye.. but if the womans liberation movement and hippy movement is any indication.. we are moving into the embracing of 'mother earth'.. and thus back into harmony with the feminine/emotional half of the brain.. the goddess shall be reborn


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: Shroomism]
    #3691825 - 01/28/05 12:03 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Man will eventually turn back to the forest. Through out history it has happened. Technology comes and goes. Intense periods of enlightenment and periods of hardship.

Men will always return to the forest.

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Re: Gang Rape [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3691829 - 01/28/05 12:05 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Thank god


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3691996 - 01/28/05 01:09 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Man will eventually turn back to the forest.

One way or the other. You got that right.


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Re: Gang Rape [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3692000 - 01/28/05 01:11 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

The_Red_Crayon said:
Man will eventually turn back to the forest. Through out history it has happened. Technology comes and goes. Intense periods of enlightenment and periods of hardship.

Men will always return to the forest.



I think it's more a matter of people learning to have nature and technology coexist peacefully, rather than choosing one over the other.

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