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 A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? 
#11054560 - 09/13/09 09:55 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you compare your body to the same sex? I did for a very long time and if nessecary I still do.
However, from my own personal experiment, I came to the conclusion that ceasing to mentally project your own body onto another female/males body, produces a result of sexual desire.
In fact, my girlfriend said 'Why mess with a good things?'
Oh...I said 'I never knew, you were a closet christian.' After all, what harm could come from it, what chaos exists in being gay, a faggot, a dyke, a lesbian....
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11055469 - 09/14/09 12:01 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'M really lost. You're saying that if you don't imagine doing your chick, it's better to do her? I don't get it
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: upinthetrees]
#11056220 - 09/14/09 05:49 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that what he said was that in the moment he didn't think about the commonly attributed roles of the male\ female bodies, he realized that sexual attraction happens between the same sex. That's what I understood anyways, since this is what makes sense to me regarding how people view their sexuality. 
In fact, I think that bisexuality is much more common than one might imagine.
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#11056382 - 09/14/09 07:34 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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umm I think its an interesting way youre looking at it but I don't find it holds. I think it is likely to have something to do with a projection but it is probably just the projection of the role rather than projection of self, specifically. The self is then bound up in that role
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#11057123 - 09/14/09 11:06 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mushroom trip. That seems close to what I was attempting to convey. 'Roles' of male/females was not taken into account, in my post. However, it clearly impacts our sexuality.
The mental act of comparison, is what I attempted to focus on and bring to anyones attention for discussion.
Kind of funny.
Tell that to the pastor of a church...What a kunundrum...its wrong to be gay, yet you can desire the same sex and the opposite sex, at will, once your understand how.
What are the evolutionary implications of this, then?
Noteworthy, not sure what your talking about, the definition of roles seems crucial to understanding it.
Right now roles means like things that you do, to make others feel comfortable around you. Actions that fit into the expectations of a group.
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11057918 - 09/14/09 01:36 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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i completely understand what your saying, and I've thought about this before.. If you are to compare your body image with that of the same sex, you are by default recognizing beauty in the same sex.. But dose beauty = desire?
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: CaptainCrunch]
#11057921 - 09/14/09 01:37 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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i believe beauty transcends sexual boundaries..
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AlphaFalfa
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: CaptainCrunch]
#11058208 - 09/14/09 02:28 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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No that is not what I meant, at least by the seems of it.
I meant that you can distort or cover up a sexual desire by comparing ones body/personality to another person of the same sex.
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11059079 - 09/14/09 05:21 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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In fact, I think that bisexuality is much more common than one might imagine.
I agree, though I'm not stating any kind of fact I feel that human beings are simply sexual regardless of what you would like to throw in front of it (homo, hetero, or bi). An effect of our using language seems to have lead to the idea that categorization is neccessary, and once being categorized the differences (which only seem to exist in the world of language and the world of symbols) become apparent and fear finds many cracks to slip itself into.
As far as I'm concerned, a mouth is a mouth in the dark.
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11059210 - 09/14/09 05:44 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I disagree. I'm not gay, and in no way, shape, or form can I ever become so. Whether I compare myself to other males or not is irrelevant. Other individuals in general, without discrimination of gender, are already seen as unfamiliar entities to me. Not comparing my body to males and comparing my body to males does nothing.
I think you might just be bi-curious.
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: meatcakeman]
#11059633 - 09/14/09 06:55 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol
Its ironic what time and a few thoughts can do and how strong perspective is.
I used worry about being gay, what can I say. Obviously I have alot to loose, the people around me are compleltly against it....Less and less so, less and less it goes.
I stopped the worrying by knowing that I got only orgasms to gain from it anyways and like the commercial for Extenze 'I have a little to loose and alot to gain'
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Edited by AlphaFalfa (09/14/09 06:57 PM)
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11059877 - 09/14/09 07:27 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just go down to your local gay bar and let it loose.
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11059899 - 09/14/09 07:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think one of the conclusions of the Kinsey research was that there is a broad range of desires and preferences in the spectrum of human sexuality. Very few people fall into the extreme ends of the scale meaning that almost no one is completely heterosexual or homosexual. This means you are all a bunch of fags to some degree.
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: joemolloy]
#11061446 - 09/14/09 11:06 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I still don't think it is primarily about projecting yourself, because when my projection of myself onto other men can often be the precursor to seeing them sexually
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: Noteworthy]
#11063712 - 09/15/09 12:40 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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That seems quite true. It seems that the projection works as a way to compare, the context of that comparison seems to be of equal importance then.
Ie. You can compare your body to guys, in the context of girls. Or you canc compare you body to guys, in the context of whether that guy would be interested in sex.
Twah!
That is what happen before. I was contextualizing the projection to women and the tastes that I assumed they generally had and spent alot of time trying to satisfy the preceedings of that; usually a desire to be more physically fit.
That makes more sense because projections are not all that bad. In fact, they are useful when choosing who to approach and engage in an interaction that could potentially lead to sex.
hey, for clarity, does projection symbolize keeping your body in mind, while perceiving anothers body?
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11065572 - 09/15/09 06:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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are you talking about the differences between gender and physical sex?
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11065632 - 09/15/09 06:36 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should look up the movie "But, I'm a Cheerleader".
Cheerleaders..... yum.... what's the score?
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11075275 - 09/17/09 08:11 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
AlphaFalfa said:
That seems quite true. It seems that the projection works as a way to compare, the context of that comparison seems to be of equal importance then.
Ie. You can compare your body to guys, in the context of girls. Or you canc compare you body to guys, in the context of whether that guy would be interested in sex.
Twah!
That is what happen before. I was contextualizing the projection to women and the tastes that I assumed they generally had and spent alot of time trying to satisfy the preceedings of that; usually a desire to be more physically fit.
That makes more sense because projections are not all that bad. In fact, they are useful when choosing who to approach and engage in an interaction that could potentially lead to sex.
hey, for clarity, does projection symbolize keeping your body in mind, while perceiving anothers body?
not sure man.. I think when I say projection I mean that you respond to the object with the cognitive tools that you use to deal with whatever it is you are 'projecting'. so you are metaphorically projecting yourself onto the thing and then perceiving yourself in it. the actual process involves having 'self' concepts (in the case of a self projection) become active due to some external stimulus (the thing you are 'projecting' onto).
Whether or not you are also aware of yourself is another variable. you could be projecting yourself and forgetting about yourself. or you could be projecting yourself but staying self conscious, which would be more like seeing another person as if they were a sort of poltergeist to yourself.
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: Noteworthy]
#11077310 - 09/17/09 02:48 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think we used the same symbology when we talked bout' it, bout' it.
Another interesting topic is, can you question your own sexuality, when it might be the case that our own perceptions about sexuality are shaping our sexuality?
It seems like its not possible to trully question your sexuality. It seems like all you are doing is freezing the processes of conceptualization that is (atleast partly) responsible for how you feel, then basing a conclusion on that.
I guesse the an equally good question about sexuality would be, what do I want my sexuality to be in the future?
Personally, I would rather have a motivation to have sex with people due to personality, more so than not. It is very dangerous to have sex with people now adays, especially those we meet the same day we have sex with them.
What about you all?
What say ye about thine sexuality?
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Re: A personal experiment....ON - Can you become a homosexual? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11077976 - 09/17/09 04:23 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said:
What about you all?
What say ye about thine sexuality?
Quit asking ghay questions and SFTU in general.
OK Falphagga?
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