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Homosexuality and its Cause(s)
    #3256332 - 10/20/04 03:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:syringe:A new study published in the medical journal Endocrinology strongly suggests that homosexuality's underpinnings are physiological.

The study is copyright and not free so I can't post it here. If you want to read it, PM me and I'll hook you up with my FTP server.

Meanwhile, here's the jist of it:


"This particular study, along with others, strongly suggests that sexual preference is biologically determined in animals, and possibly in humans," said the study?s lead author, Charles E. Roselli, Ph.D., professor in the Department of Physiology and Pharmacology, OHSU School of Medicine. "The hope is that the study of these brain differences will provide clues to the processes involved in the development and regulation of heterosexual, as well as homosexual, behavior."

The results lend credence to previous studies in humans that described anatomical differences between the brains of heterosexual men and homosexual men, as well as sexually unique versions of the same cluster of brain cells in males and females.

"Same-sex attraction is widespread across many different species." said Roselli, whose laboratory collaborated with the Department of Animal Sciences at Oregon State University and the USDA Agricultural Research Service?s U.S. Sheep Experiment Station in Dubois, Idaho.

The study examined 27 adult, 4-year-old sheep of mixed Western breeds reared at the U.S. Sheep Experiment Station. They included eight male sheep exhibiting a female mate preference ? female-oriented rams ? nine male-oriented rams and 10 ewes.

OHSU researchers discovered an irregularly shaped, densely packed cluster of nerve cells in the hypothalamus of the sheep brain, which they named the ovine sexually dimorphic nucleus or oSDN because it is a different size in rams than in ewes. The hypothalamus is the part of the brain that controls metabolic activities and reproductive functions.

"They?re one of the few species that have been systematically studied, so we?re able to do very careful and controlled experiments on sheep," Roselli said. "We used rams that had consistently shown exclusive sexual preference for other rams when they were given a choice between rams and ewes."


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Diploid]
    #3256344 - 10/20/04 03:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

lol


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Diploid]
    #3256355 - 10/20/04 03:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

interesting. of course, i think most people have some latent bi-sexual tendencies...


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Gomp]
    #3256358 - 10/20/04 03:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

What do you find funny??  :confused:


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Diploid]
    #3256361 - 10/20/04 03:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Also, a mother's stressed pregnancy causes smaller development of the hypothalamus in males.


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Diploid]
    #3256366 - 10/20/04 03:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

why does it matter?

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i know why it matters to some people, never mind.


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Todcasil]
    #3256384 - 10/20/04 03:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I was raised believing homosexuality was a choice.

I realized this was bullclat once I started liking girls (I didn't have a choice in this). Basically it's the same for homosexuals, except they like members of the same sex.


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Diploid]
    #3256386 - 10/20/04 03:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Diploid said:
What do you find funny??  :confused:




gomp is confused. He is amusing for all his confusion. I assume he is laughing at gay sheep. the idea is weird...


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Todcasil]
    #3256390 - 10/20/04 03:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: jux]
    #3256609 - 10/20/04 04:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

or.. i maybe laughed because they needed a study for that  :grin: :thumbup:


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Diploid]
    #3256656 - 10/20/04 05:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If a "vaccine" was developed, should straights force gays to get inoculated?

(I would vote for ONLY the lesbians to get the shot. :wink: )


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Swami]
    #3256672 - 10/20/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i dont think there would be an overwhelming rush of gay men and women running to the doctor for their gay vaccine.


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Todcasil]
    #3257275 - 10/20/04 07:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

lol gay rams


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #3257763 - 10/20/04 08:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That's interesting but somewhat irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. Sexuality simply is, it doesn't matter where it comes from, its personal and doesn't have to be justified (as long as it's consensual and has healthy power dynamics.)


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #3257852 - 10/20/04 09:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think it's that irrelevant, learning these things about how our desires and personalities are formed can give us a great deal of insight into our psychology.

When it comes to a discussion of the morality of homosexuality, it's 100% irrelevant. Despite that, this information might have an impact on how someone with anti-gay feelings views homosexuals, and could be useful in promoting tolerance.


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Phluck]
    #3257908 - 10/20/04 09:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

"I realized this was bullclat once I started liking girls (I didn't have a choice in this). Basically it's the same for homosexuals, except they like members of the same sex. "

that was remarkably clear thinking, well said

yeah ive read that almost 10% of nearly every mammal species and even some species of birds are homosexual. There are kinds of birds that mate for life. Some individuals choose to mate for life with a same sex partner, but seek out an opposite sex individual simply for breeding purposes, but they raise the egg with a gay or lesbian partner

very interesting

if anything i think they should start breeding for homosexuality in both sexes, to slow down the population explosion


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Swami]
    #3258011 - 10/20/04 10:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
If a "vaccine" was developed, should straights force gays to get inoculated?

(I would vote for ONLY the lesbians to get the shot. :wink: )



Based on most lesbians I've met, I'd just as soon let them have their way with other lesbians.


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: silversoul7]
    #3258817 - 10/21/04 01:38 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Afraid that they might come after you and you would have no choice in the matter? When is the last time you went binge-drinking?  :tongue:


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Diploid]
    #3259985 - 10/21/04 12:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thing is either one is kool or one is not. I mean who cares who fucks who, as long as everyone is having fun?

Nature invented cannabis, it is utterly natural, it is what it is. It is surely what nature intended...but that don't seem to be enough for the type of people who reckon they know what 'God' really intended. I doubt this kind of information you present will do much for those people.....except force them to try to cure the 'malfunction'.

How disgusting that would be......another way to robotise and corral the names into convenient numbers.

I mean you can spend forever abraisively psychoanalysing yourself or whoever - but why? Why not just enjoy? Why not use your individuality to reach out and experience. It's a shimmer of magical diversity. It's the outcome which is the person....which is so awesome.

Aaahhhhh! Because someone wants you in a little pigeon hole slot in their cultural model - which is of course the ONLY acceptable way to be.

Basically there is a bunch of people out there who have to get into a position of attempted control (ie. your monotheist religious leader example, politicians etc) because they can't handle otherness. Therefore anything which doesn't mirror their moral and cultural assumptions is branded sinful/evil/illegal. They can't deal with it, it freaks them.

Their cultural assumptions and beliefs are the only truth to them and anything that veers from this must be exorcised......Only then will they finally feel safe. And until then they must carry out 'the good work'.

I guess we too have to accept them and their inability to accept, but we must all be strong enough to believe in our difference and that simply being is our preogative - no matter what we are, or how far we are from their template.

That being said, if this kind of information helps gays come to terms with themselves when some arsehole has brought them up/through as though they are some abomination - well that's real good.


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Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: CJay]
    #3260007 - 10/21/04 12:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thing is either one is kool or one is not. I mean who cares who fucks who, as long as everyone is having fun?

This is the source of saying, "Who gives a fuck?"


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