|
 deff
just love everyone
Registered: 05/01/04
Posts: 9,383
Loc: clarity 
Last seen: 6 minutes, 27 seconds
|
 Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s)  [Re: CJay]
#3265893 - 10/22/04 08:24 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Maybe a population control mutation, although I don't have a clue how this would actually work on a genetic level, nor do I think there is necessarily a reason behind it at all.
--------------------
|
 Diploid
Cuban
Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 19,274
Loc: Rabbit Hole
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: shroomydan]
#3266064 - 10/22/04 09:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I have not seen that evidence,
Didn't you read the opening post of this thread? 
People are born and some of them develop this pathological behavior pattern
How did you come to the conclusion that homosexual behavior is pathological?
--------------------
Republican Values:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.
4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
|
Huehuecoyotl
Fading Slowly
Registered: 06/13/04
Posts: 10,685
Loc: On the Border
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Diploid]
#3266165 - 10/22/04 09:57 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Everything you do is a choice.
--------------------
"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
|
Diploid
Cuban
Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 19,274
Loc: Rabbit Hole
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3266180 - 10/22/04 10:02 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Everything you do is a choice.
A lot of what you do it a choice, but certainly not everything.
Have you ever gotten an erection from the proximity of an attractive woman?
Could you chose to no longer be attracted to women?
Could you chose to get an erection from the proximity of an attractive guy?
Certainly you don't think animals make a conscious choice to be gay, do you? How can you not see the logic of this?
Why is it so hard for you to see that people cannot choose what they find attractive. People get horny for whatever makes them horny; they don't chose it.
--------------------
Republican Values:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.
4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
Edited by Diploid (10/22/04 10:13 PM)
|
shroomydan
exshroomerite
Registered: 07/04/04
Posts: 4,126
Loc: In the woods
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Diploid]
#3266486 - 10/22/04 11:27 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
"How did you come to the conclusion that homosexual behavior is pathological? "
It is pathological because it does not promote survival and reproduction.
|
Diploid
Cuban
Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 19,274
Loc: Rabbit Hole
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: shroomydan]
#3266492 - 10/22/04 11:29 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
A pathology is something caused by disease.
Homosexuality is not a disease.
--------------------
Republican Values:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.
4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
Edited by Diploid (10/22/04 11:37 PM)
|
 Gomp
¡(Bound to·(O))be free!
Registered: 09/11/04
Posts: 10,888
Loc: I re·side [primarily] in...
Last seen: 8 months, 29 days
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Diploid]
#3267545 - 10/23/04 11:20 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
everything you did you chosed, but the way it went is the way it went? :P everything you, do you do?
--------------------
--------------------
Disclaimer!?
|
fireworks_god
Sexy.Butt.McDanger
Registered: 03/12/02
Posts: 24,855
Loc: Pandurn
Last seen: 10 months, 11 days
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: DNKYD]
#3267552 - 10/23/04 11:24 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
DNKYD said:
I've been told of recent studies in my psych class that show homosexuality to be genetic. I don't doubt it, sounds reasonable to me.
Yes, it seems reasonable that homosexuality is genetic when it requires heterosexual sex to create children. 
 
Peace. 
--------------------
 
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
  
 
|
tomk
King of OTD
Registered: 09/22/04
Posts: 1,559
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: fireworks_god]
#3268851 - 10/23/04 05:47 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
"Being something of a Darwinist I thought I would point this out.
1) For a genetic adaptation to be passed on to future generations, it must promote either survival or reproduction, or both.
2) If a genetically determined characteristic or behavior is detrimental to survival or reproduction, then it is less likely to be passed on. These are called genetic defects or genetic diseases.
3) Homosexual activity is by nature detrimental to reproduction.
Therefore, if homosexual behavior is genetically determined, then it is a disease which should eventually die out, for those who exclusively engage in homosexual instead of heterosexual activity have a zero percent chance of passing on their "gay" genes.
This leads me to believe that homosexuality is not genetically determined.
This does not rule out the possibility that there may be genetic risk factors which, in conjunction with other causes, lead to this behavior.
Just an observation."
Just an observation.
A gay person does not need to pass on his own genes by reproducing to propagate gay genes. If the relatives of homosexuals survived and passed on genes more then those without homosexuals, then genetic homosexuality does get passed on even as homosexuals do not mate.
--------------------
"I am eternally free"
|
felix
Registered: 01/20/00
Posts: 10,503
Last seen: 19 days, 9 hours
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: tomk]
#3270139 - 10/24/04 01:21 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
i believe that.
i wonder if homosexuality is a choice or a disease. it's almost as if being gay has become trendy.
--------------------
Real botanists laugh at HPS systems, we do however use high pressure sodium in the parking lot. - artthug
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker
Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: felix]
#3270159 - 10/24/04 01:26 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
This is not truly relevant, but as a young slender, well-built man I was hit upon constantly by gays. Here is the thing, it was EXTREMELY rare that they were at all respectful. I am talking about grabbing and pawing with no dinner or flowers nor even the slightest hint of interest on my part. I am a sexual man, but have never treated a woman this way.
I guess I am trying to say in my anecdotal way, that the dysfunction was more than just one of preference.
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
|
felix
Registered: 01/20/00
Posts: 10,503
Last seen: 19 days, 9 hours
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Swami]
#3270200 - 10/24/04 01:38 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Swami said:
as a young slender, well-built man I was hit upon constantly..
ha!
Suuuuuuuuuure you were...
--------------------
Real botanists laugh at HPS systems, we do however use high pressure sodium in the parking lot. - artthug
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker
Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) *DELETED* [Re: felix]
#3270254 - 10/24/04 01:51 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Post deleted by Swami
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
|
kbilly
earthwalker
Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 158
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: felix]
#3270268 - 10/24/04 01:54 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
you dudes are such fascists even though you all take shrooms.
live and let live for fuck sakes, what ever happened to love your neighbour.
there is good scientific evidence that shows it has at least a partial root in genes eg more identical twins are both gay than normal twins even if they grow up in different houses.
the reason why the gay gene does not get bred out as you would expect is that this same genes in women increases their fecundity eg woman with this gene have more kids making up for the sons who wont have any.
its not a human thing lots of animals do it lions and our closest relatives after normal chimps, are pygmy chimps about 98% genetically identical to us does it all the time.
Edited by kbilly (10/24/04 01:56 AM)
|
felix
Registered: 01/20/00
Posts: 10,503
Last seen: 19 days, 9 hours
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Swami]
#3270272 - 10/24/04 01:55 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
posting nude shots of yourself in a homosexual thread...and complaining about being hit upon by gay boys...
--------------------
Real botanists laugh at HPS systems, we do however use high pressure sodium in the parking lot. - artthug
|
felix
Registered: 01/20/00
Posts: 10,503
Last seen: 19 days, 9 hours
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: kbilly]
#3270278 - 10/24/04 01:57 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
what good is partial scientific evidence in a spirituality and philosophy forum..? lol
--------------------
Real botanists laugh at HPS systems, we do however use high pressure sodium in the parking lot. - artthug
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker
Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: felix]
#3270280 - 10/24/04 01:57 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
LOL! The photo was taken by my girlfriend. No one wore clothes on the River back in The Day. Hope I didn't excite you too much. 
BTW, why do you assume a male body will excite another male more than a female? 
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
Edited by Swami (10/24/04 02:05 AM)
|
felix
Registered: 01/20/00
Posts: 10,503
Last seen: 19 days, 9 hours
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: Swami]
#3270309 - 10/24/04 02:07 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Swami said:
Hope I didn't excite you too much.
BTW, why do you assume a male body will excite another male more than a female?
seems like you are the one assuming..
--------------------
Real botanists laugh at HPS systems, we do however use high pressure sodium in the parking lot. - artthug
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker
Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: felix]
#3270354 - 10/24/04 02:20 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I am not trolling for PMs, nor will a photo make a hetero male turn homosexual. Guess I am not sure what your objection was. The vast majority of the time I was fully clothed when hit upon. It never happened down by the river where everyone went au natural.
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
|
kbilly
earthwalker
Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 158
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
|
Re: Homosexuality and its Cause(s) [Re: felix]
#3270391 - 10/24/04 02:34 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
oh you want me to do your reading for you too.
sounds like your a bit diseased yourself.
and its very relkevant in the philosophy forum, because if its natural then its not sin, and thats in major conflict with the dominant moral philosophy in our culture.
but make no mistake a lot of bisexual men are gay because they want to have loads of sex, its a sex lifestyle. i have no problem with this but i wouldnt say that its healthy in an emotionally or spiritually sense.
and if you dont like me posting here the i suggest you dont read it, sorry to have damaged your precious retinas.
|
|
Threaded
Previous
Index
Next
North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies 
Buy Bali Kratom Powder 
Red Vein Kratom 
Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order 
Bulk Cannabis Seeds
Edit 
Reply 
1 2 3 4 ... 12 13 all )
durantz
chemkid
learningtofly
Schwammel
AlphaFalfa
ribbit
mofo