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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
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myc_ousin_vinny said:
drVetker said:
Hi everyone,

First time doing grain. Do I shake this jar? It's been a week since inoculation.
It's the same jar on both pix.




I would. It's almost done, so it should recover and finish quickly.


Thank you Vinny. I kept thinking at 30% but it went so quickly on this jar.
I prepared 3 completely the same way and dropped 3 wedges into each jar, all of them from one plate and this one is going great, one is going nice but a bit slower and the third one is going nowhere.

I don't get it. Especially the one that's going nowhere.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick]
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Pickle Rick said:
So... I have a 50l tub... it was sent to fruiting over a month ago. At the 3 week mark, I had 2 fruits. Now a week later, I have 2 more fruits.

things I did differently:
-I packed the substrate much more firmly than usual
-no verm

I'm kind of confused, as I have been getting really generous yields that have been fairly uniformed.

Any idea why I'm only getting a couple fruits at a time in a pretty large tub?




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick]
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Pickle Rick said:
Pickle Rick said:
So... I have a 50l tub... it was sent to fruiting over a month ago. At the 3 week mark, I had 2 fruits. Now a week later, I have 2 more fruits.

things I did differently:
-I packed the substrate much more firmly than usual
-no verm

I'm kind of confused, as I have been getting really generous yields that have been fairly uniformed.

Any idea why I'm only getting a couple fruits at a time in a pretty large tub?





I pack 7qts into my 5.2qt shoe boxes by compressing with body weight, so I would say you can eliminate that as the cause.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: San Pedro Girl]
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β€œGenetics”
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(Assuming your spawn was clean)

If not replace w/ β€œcontamination”


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
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Looking at that pic I think we can assume the spawn was probably bacterial. Uneven colonization, random thick patches of myc.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho]
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SirPsycho said:
Looking at that pic I think we can assume the spawn was probably bacterial. Uneven colonization, random thick patches of myc.


there were no signs of bacteria... I uploaded a photo of the spawn bag a while back. I was under the impression it was bacterial... more experienced growers told me it wasnt. there were signs of temperature fluctuations though

here's the thread regarding the spawn bag


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pickle Rick] * 1
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While not all cases exposed grain is a sign of bacteria I'd say the fact that most grains have patchy colonization combined with poor colonization of substrate, thick consolidated patches and poor flushes does point to bacteria.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho]
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So what are your grain jar to coir ratios nowadays?

I used to do 5 jars per brick, but the coir always felt like it didn't colonize all the way.

I'm thinking about doing 3-4qt and a half brick per smaller tub, but maybe that's overkill?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
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1:3 spawn:sub in my house, quart for quart.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: abductee] * 1
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abductee said:
Ugh, I think I got trichoderma for the first time. My first flush in this mono.



What brand coir do you use? Some has added trich. It helps growing roses and shit like that.

Plantronix Coco Bliss is good coir for growing shrooms. Nature's Premium brand coir is also good. None of that has trich.

And the coir used for lizard bedding and spider terrariums should not have trich.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: nektar61]
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Hi everyone,  gotta question about pausing grain. What do you do when you need to go away for 2 weeks and you got the myc on grain?
Can I put in the fridge and then just take out for a couple of days and go to substrate? Or should I go from fridged grain to new grain and then to substrate?
Or is this a bad idea completely and should start from a fresh agar plate going to fresh grain and chuck what I have away?
Hopint I don't have to do that.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker] * 4
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drVetker said:
Hi everyone,  gotta question about pausing grain. What do you do when you need to go away for 2 weeks and you got the myc on grain?
Can I put in the fridge and then just take out for a couple of days and go to substrate? Or should I go from fridged grain to new grain and then to substrate?
Or is this a bad idea completely and should start from a fresh agar plate going to fresh grain and chuck what I have away?
Hopint I don't have to do that.


You can definitely refrigerate spawn for a couple weeks. I think you’ll be good.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
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myc_ousin_vinny said:
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You can definitely refrigerate spawn for a couple weeks. I think you’ll be good.


Thanks Vinny, any advice on getting it back to life after taking out of the fridge? Should I leave it for a couple of days at room temp or can it go to substrate direct out the fridge and it will then bunce back while permeating the substrate?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker] * 5
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I recently sent two month old spawn from the fridge and it behaved as if it hadn’t been refrigerated at all. Just sent it straight from the ice box, still cold. No discernible difference.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker] * 2
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drVetker said:
myc_ousin_vinny said:
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You can definitely refrigerate spawn for a couple weeks. I think you’ll be good.


Thanks Vinny, any advice on getting it back to life after taking out of the fridge? Should I leave it for a couple of days at room temp or can it go to substrate direct out the fridge and it will then bunce back while permeating the substrate?


I don't think it really matters. Common advice is to let it warm up for a day or two. My view is there is no better place to warm up than inside a nice cozy substrate.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Ok thank you very Smelly

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Way]
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Ok thank you

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Way] * 1
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Way said:
drVetker said:
myc_ousin_vinny said:
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You can definitely refrigerate spawn for a couple weeks. I think you’ll be good.


Thanks Vinny, any advice on getting it back to life after taking out of the fridge? Should I leave it for a couple of days at room temp or can it go to substrate direct out the fridge and it will then bunce back while permeating the substrate?


I don't think it really matters. Common advice is to let it warm up for a day or two. My view is there is no better place to warm up than inside a nice cozy substrate.


Isn’t it such a weird thought to even say β€œoh this has to warm up by itself in a jar it can’t warm up separated and broken up”. When In reality it’d warm up in a fraction of the time being broken up?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Screwup] * 1
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Isn’t it such a weird thought to even say β€œoh this has to warm up by itself in a jar it can’t warm up separated and broken up”. When In reality it’d warm up in a fraction of the time being broken up?


Ah, what can I tell you. My lack of imagination, or just being too carefull about not fucking up, even though fucking up would be a good way to learn. It's weird, I admit it, and sort of dumb too. But fuck it.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker]
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Ah yeah wasn’t directed at you just running off that. Plenty of people have come by with that train of thought.


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