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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bw86] * 3
    #28227601 - 03/13/23 10:23 AM (10 months, 12 days ago)

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If you look closely at that last pint you cant see a beard hair pube :tongue:




I had to go take a look at the 1/4 pint myself! Hopefully a facial hair?! I love growing mush but not enough for a pubic hairs to show up. I'm not knocking up my jars that way!

Thank you all for your responses, for me I am happy to learn and certainly am the first to admit how very little I know about so very much.

AyePlus said "not sure what that has to docwith this discussion but yes, the low nute one would run faster and be more likely to exhibit rhizomorphic growth"

The converse would be true then? Higher nutes would likely exhibit slower, fluffy growth. The reason I ask is with low prep, all of the grain's nutrition stays in the jar compared to the simmer/rinse approach to prep. So much nutrition is lost that industrious people dilute the grain water runoff and make agar from it. Perhaps this explains the thick mycelium growth that people see compared to a lower nutrition grain spawn they are use to?

For business sense, it is too bad that low prep doesn't work for you, time=$! Obviously you have you system dialed in the way you like and I hope it brings you success,  good luck!


Thank you NoGoodNamesLeft, the jars have gone to bulk, I'll try to grab some bag photos today especially #4, the low prep WBS. BTW, you clean room (like Aye+) is like soft core porn, damn sexy!

AKA and Rumfor69, long distance high 5s, thanks for a little sunshine!

I'm still working on my Sus Cultivator badge. Hopefully I can get Mushboy to give me one, maybe with red/gold/green coloration compared to TC's red/blue? :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer]
    #28227644 - 03/13/23 10:50 AM (10 months, 12 days ago)

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I'm still working on my Sus Cultivator badge. Hopefully I can get Mushboy to give me one, maybe with red/gold/green coloration compared to TC's red/blue? :smile:



Whatโ€™s a sus cultivator badge?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 2
    #28227671 - 03/13/23 11:17 AM (10 months, 12 days ago)

Sorry San Pedro Girl, just a joke, a Sus Cultivator would be a questionable one compared to a trusted.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer]
    #28227694 - 03/13/23 11:36 AM (10 months, 12 days ago)

I mentioned I think the different look/texture of myc in your jars has more to do with loose starches on the jar than with more nutrition. Well rinsed grains would definitely look different with the same cultures. I definitely understand that and said so in my previous posts. I would be sus if my jars looked like that but yours are different so i hesitate to assess them.

If more nutrition was the goal weโ€™d all be adding brf to coat our grains. Plenty of nutrition inside the grain, to me the trade off is worth it, much easier to visually asses grains that arent covered in gunk.

If i werent expanding things so far and pushing limits Iโ€™d be able to trust my cultures more. Also oyster grain bricks up hard enough without loose starches..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #28227701 - 03/13/23 11:40 AM (10 months, 12 days ago)

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I mentioned I think the different look/texture of myc in your jars has more to do with loose starches on the jar than with more nutrition. Well rinsed grains would definitely look different with the same cultures. I definitely understand that and said so in my previous posts. I would be sus if my jars looked like that but yours are different so i hesitate to assess them.

If more nutrition was the goal weโ€™d all be adding brf to coat our grains. Plenty of nutrition inside the grain, to me the trade off is worth it, much easier to visually asses grains that arent covered in gunk.

If i werent expanding things so far and pushing limits Iโ€™d be able to trust my cultures more. Also oyster grain bricks up hard enough without loose starches..



To remove starches, are you rinsing before or after hydration?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Eugene Gesuale]
    #28227739 - 03/13/23 12:10 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

i have been known to rinse millet after, and bring back to heat to steam off but only if i accidently overcook it a l lil generally I dont though, i cook my grain in a brew bag in a large pot, it keeps them suspended off the bottom and after stirring and boiling most of the loose starches settle out and remain in the water. In no-prep all the starches remain coating grains in the bottom of the jar, that plus the unever cooking = yoshis puck, that he has to shake the everliving shit out of and schmear the jar bag etc. thats the main part i dont like about no prep


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 3
    #28227752 - 03/13/23 12:22 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

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Sorry San Pedro Girl, just a joke, a Sus Cultivator would be a questionable one compared to a trusted.



Damn, I shouldโ€™ve got that or asked my daughter! I suck with new interwebs lingo/young people speak.๐Ÿคฃ


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 1
    #28227763 - 03/13/23 12:36 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

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Sorry San Pedro Girl, just a joke, a Sus Cultivator would be a questionable one compared to a trusted.



Soooo Thugnar? :lmafo:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] * 11
    #28228300 - 03/13/23 06:38 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

Well folks I have been off for a few months while the boujee nursery I do landscape design for hibernates for winter. I love it since mushies have supplemented my life and time off gives me time to grind. Often still putting in 40 hours a week on cultivation.
Spring is here. Time to unload a truck in the rain in the A.M.
I have set myself up to keep this a mushroom packed (spring)summer. Often I disappear with the 40 hour grind + taking care of my own yard. This year im devoted to keeping a perpetual grow during the normal work grind. I didn't grow all winter but my first good looking cube jar is colonized and I have almost a dozen other species up and running.

My attendance might be spotty for a lil while but i'm gonna stick this one out. I will be posting with some fun picture post for you all soon.
Have fun Shroomery.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bw86]
    #28229217 - 03/14/23 11:14 AM (10 months, 11 days ago)

Any opinions on ph adjusted casing layers to prevent Trichoderma? I generally disregard Reddit for mycology related information however this seems interesting and I'm wondering if anyone here has given it a shot.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ContamFam/comments/m3unbr/daytrippers_trip_tips_video_tutorial_on_how_to/

Cheers & hope everyone's doing good!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stockw]
    #28229222 - 03/14/23 11:18 AM (10 months, 11 days ago)

I've read that is why we add lime to casing in Pans, but I can confirm that I've had my pans get trich before, so PH adjusted casing layers are not a definitive defense against trich.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cooleko] * 2
    #28229229 - 03/14/23 11:20 AM (10 months, 11 days ago)

Itโ€™s more to prevent the culture from running through it completely than mold prevention.  The casing is a water reservoir and scaffold for fruit.  Cubes donโ€™t need one, of course.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #28229235 - 03/14/23 11:24 AM (10 months, 11 days ago)

Thanks for sharing, I'll store that tidbit away. If it is expected to prevent pan mycelium from completely colonizing it, then it is likely it has a similar effect against trich, so there is a grain of truth in the idea.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cooleko]
    #28229441 - 03/14/23 01:42 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

You are correct, the lower pH (below 6 I believe) is hospitable for trich and other molds. Optimal pH for agaricales is slightly acidic to neutralish, around 6.5-7.5, iirc.  Above that should prevent colonization and contamination.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #28229627 - 03/14/23 03:50 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

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You are correct, the lower pH (below 6 I believe) is hospitable for trich and other molds. Optimal pH for agaricales is slightly acidic to neutralish, around 6.5-7.5, iirc.  Above that should prevent colonization and contamination.




you saying i probably shouldnt use my RO filtered water to prep coir? you saying its not only pointless to filter out mag and K, but potentially detrimental?

yes i think thats what youre saying. got it.  fuck.  why cant i learn something *before* i make a mistake for once?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28229659 - 03/14/23 04:07 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

Ha, I donโ€™t think itโ€™s that crucial as far as coir prep goes.  RO is slightly acidic and CO tap, depending where you live is probably 7-9.  I think Denver is 8.8.  Coir has a pH of 6.5-6.7.  I use tap.  I save the RO for the carnivorous plants.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28229691 - 03/14/23 04:19 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

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You are correct, the lower pH (below 6 I believe) is hospitable for trich and other molds. Optimal pH for agaricales is slightly acidic to neutralish, around 6.5-7.5, iirc.  Above that should prevent colonization and contamination.




you saying i probably shouldnt use my RO filtered water to prep coir? you saying its not only pointless to filter out mag and K, but potentially detrimental?

yes i think thats what youre saying. got it.  fuck.  why cant i learn something *before* i make a mistake for once?



Nothing wrong with RO or distilled water, but it may be pointless. Iโ€™ve only ever used pH 7.8 buffered water for mush stuff, with 1ppm chloramine. The advantage is the minerals, but the disadvantage is the pH and chloramine. Distilled water is about the perfect amount of acidic (yes, donโ€™t ever let someone tell you distilled water is 7 pH neutral), but doesnโ€™t have the minerals. I donโ€™t think it matters. So many other factors eclipse the water to make a great grow.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
    #28229765 - 03/14/23 05:04 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

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Ha, I donโ€™t think itโ€™s that crucial as far as coir prep goes.  RO is slightly acidic and CO tap, depending where you live is probably 7-9.  I think Denver is 8.8.  Coir has a pH of 6.5-6.7.  I use tap.  I save the RO for the carnivorous plants.




my RO water comes out at 7.0 ph... I use RO water  for every aspect of cultivation... never seen an issue using RO water๐Ÿคท


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420] * 2
    #28229792 - 03/14/23 05:23 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

It may come out of the filter at 7 but will start dropping as it absorbs CO2 from the air.  :shrug:  Like I said, I donโ€™t think it matters one way or another.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado] * 4
    #28229803 - 03/14/23 05:28 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

hmm. well..  it tastes fuckin great.  and i want my shrooms to have great tasting water, myco.


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