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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: Psychonott]
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The Mandela effect
There are many discrepancies people's memory, almost as if events are not as we remember it, and mass of people's memories of events, advertisements, movie quotes have changed.
The line in movie forest gump " life is like a box of chocolates" is now " life was like a box of chocolates..  I remember quoting that line many times and I know it as , life is like a box of chocolates. If you go view the movie now anywhere the line is now " life was like a box of chocolates. There's many many other examples, google or YouTube it, very fascinating. People believe we slipped into a different time stream or something like that.  It's said that cern has done some experiments where they collided particles to open a black hole or gateway to another dimension.
But it's weird as fuck. I remember the line from Star Wars " Luke, I am your father" but now it's "no, I am your father" another famous line " If you build it, they will come" field of dreams, but now the movie was written saying " if you build it, he will come" . These are minute differences, but it's a memory of a different past.
James earl jones also remembers saying " Luke, I am your father" but apparently the movie shows different. Not all of us has the same memories, some are from this time line.

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: Psychonott]
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Psychonott said:
Multiple universe theory is such bullocks as is there really a universe expressing the infinite amount of possibilities that every molecule can express all whilst I'm eating a ham sandwich, one where I'm
Not, one where there is a single poppy seed on the bun, one with 43 seeds? Where does one  draw the line on such a suggestion?


I've noticed there is unnatural support for atheism and evolution around accounts on the internet that push false beliefs.


And funny enough those people often entertain the multiverse theories


I think they are all rooted in fooling people with half truths to relinquish self control.



I know when I first got caught up in Richard Dawkins books in 8th grade I told my mom I wasn't getting confirmed In church. I became too logically based and viewed myself as an insignificant number.


Glad I deprogrammed that Bs and have regained control of the most powerful spiritual connections that all humans are blessed with




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Enlils true purpose is to get us off topic and to cast enough logical doubts so that outsiders viewing this would be more likely to side with his fake opinions rather than our or sometimes controlled opppsotions opinions.


You see if you are too skilled at not falling for their traps and stating logically sound debunks then other accounts who purposefully agree with 90% of the truth join in and get the entire topic off the main points.

It's their 1960s version of damage control and diversion but man it's painfully obvious in 2017

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: abductee]
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abductee said: I just read a write up of some guy who was saying he was abductee and the alien told him how it was created and why... some interesting theories, some clashed. But he said we are part of a half, that this planet is basically a place to grow out the creators creations, and that this planet has all different temperate zones that mimick every place in the universe in some way. They create here and then would take from here the life and seed it on another planet. There was a lot more in his write up, describes how we changed and were in turn genetically modified so we lost our true self, we were meant to take care of this planet and grow. Now we are not connected to our other half that worked with us on a different planet through telepathy. Our other half was the geneticist that carried out the creators designs, and we were the botanist sort of speak.

I left out a bit, it was a long account of our history and purpose.



How does anyone take this seriously and what kind of warped purpose can come from such a blatantly made up scenario of telepathic communication with half beings on other planets?

So again, why on Gods green Earth would someone believe this, and for what purpose?


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: sudly]
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No more insane than the Jesus Zombie shit fed to me as a child...

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: liloldme]
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what is this thread about anyway?


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: redgreenvines]
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It's about the possibility of how life came to be on this planet. Seeing that it started sterile  (a molten ball of lava) it possibly very well had to be contaminated from an outside source :shrug:

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PinPornProducer]
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you are just repeating the first imagining without understanding that the "sterile" ball actually had all the necessary ingredients. it was an enriched sterile ball at the right distance from the sun...

like jello waiting to mix with water, but several additional stages as I recounted above.
all likely by randomness over the reasonable eons allotted.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: redgreenvines]
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Space fungus from a asteroid

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: abductee] * 1
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Isn't that just an infinite regress, though? If we assume life was seeded on Earth, then how did it begin on the planet from which the seed came? If you assume it's a general phenomenon, you have to go all the way back to the planet on which life arose, which then started seeding all the other planets. Why not just cut out the middle-man and concede that life on Earth could have begun... on Earth? It has to happen somewhere...


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
you are just repeating the first imagining without understanding that the "sterile" ball actually had all the necessary ingredients. it was an enriched sterile ball at the right distance from the sun...

like jello waiting to mix with water, but several additional stages as I recounted above.
all likely by randomness over the reasonable eons allotted.



You asked what this thread was about, that's wtf it's about :shrug:

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: DividedQuantum]
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DividedQuantum said:
Isn't that just an infinite regress, though? If we assume life was seeded on Earth, then how did it begin on the planet from which the seed came? If you assume it's a general phenomenon, you have to go all the way back to the planet on which life arose, which then started seeding all the other planets. Why not just cut out the middle-man and concede that life on Earth could have begun... on Earth? It has to happen somewhere...



If what I'm saying is true then we will never have the answer to how life began looking anywhere near here. I mean ppl believe inorganic material turned into organic material, that's just lunacy :lol:

Or...Maybe I just eat waaay to many boomers :lol:

Edited by PinPornProducer (05/09/17 03:12 PM)

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: DividedQuantum]
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DividedQuantum said:
Isn't that just an infinite regress, though? If we assume life was seeded on Earth, then how did it begin on the planet from which the seed came?



the answer is we dont know

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PussyFart]
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maybe you still don't
the density of each man's skull is not the same as every other man's dense skull


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: redgreenvines]
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And some ppls heads are further up their own asses than others :popcorn:

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PinPornProducer] * 1
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that's easy for you to say


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: redgreenvines]
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Video Relevant..


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PinPornProducer]
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Heres something to think about:

If every single atom that makes up your body existed before you were born, then how is your body 'yours'? :eyebrow:

PinPornProducer said:
the only way anything can grow on a newly sterilized planet would have to be introduced from an outside contaminate.



Not necessarily...

Brief physics lesson:

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Suns are formed from the vast amounts of hydrogen gas left over from the big bang. The atoms attract eachother and the 'group 'gets bigger as more hydrogen atoms join and their constant spinning causes the whole 'cloud' to spin which creates its own gravitational force, pulling everything towards its centre. As the pressure at the centre increases, it squeezes the hydrogen atoms closer together increasing the frequency of collisions and generating heat, until the massive ball of hydrogen ignites and becomes a sun.

The pressure and temperature continues to rise until it reaches a ‘flash point’ (around 14 million kelvin). Up until this point the positive nuclei of the hydrogen atoms would repel each other, but under the immense heat and pressure they are forcefully fused together. When two hydrogen atoms are fused, the result is a helium atom which consists of two protons, two neutrons and two electrons. This process releases massive amounts of energy which fuels the star. As the pressure and temperature increases, the helium atoms are fused to create new heavier elements, which are then fused to create even newer elements.

Once the star begins to run out of hydrogen, it starts to die and expands into a red giant. During this period, if the star is large enough it will begin to fuse 3 helium atoms to create a carbon atom. Depending on the size of the star, it will continue a series of fusions producing elements from oxygen through to iron.

Once the hydrogen has been depleted, the heavier elements rush into the stars core. It becomes so heavy that it cannot withstand its own gravitational force and it collapses. The result is a giant explosion of a supernova. The extreme pressure and temperature of this process produces elements heavier than iron such as gold and uranium, which are expelled out into the cosmos.

As stars collapse and shoot various elements into space, these particles get pulled towards other suns and become stuck in their gravity. The heavier elements tend to orbit closer to the sun which combine to form rocky planets while lighter elements tend to orbit further away and create gas planets.

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The key element for life is carbon as it can bond with a vast range of different elements creating the complicated 'combinations' necessaryfor life forms. The ring of 'dust' that created our planet could have already contained the elements necessary for life but as the temperature was too high they could not bond. As the planet cooled to a certain temperature it may have allowed for the reactions to take place that resulted in the molecules for early life.

Having said that, the elements necessary for the vast range of complex life forms we see today would have required extra elements from asteroids and what not.


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The only reason why T-rex's can't walk backwards is because they're extinct, which perfectly explains why there are no headaches in the rainforest; The parrots eat 'em all.

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: wolfiewolfie]
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It's kinda fun to think about life as nothing more than another chemical reaction taking place.

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: wolfiewolfie]
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wolfiewolfie said:
Heres something to think about:

If every single atom that makes up your body existed before you were born, then how is your body 'yours'? :eyebrow:

PinPornProducer said:
the only way anything can grow on a newly sterilized planet would have to be introduced from an outside contaminate.



Not necessarily...

Brief physics lesson:

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Suns are formed from the vast amounts of hydrogen gas left over from the big bang. The atoms attract eachother and the 'group 'gets bigger as more hydrogen atoms join and their constant spinning causes the whole 'cloud' to spin which creates its own gravitational force, pulling everything towards its centre. As the pressure at the centre increases, it squeezes the hydrogen atoms closer together increasing the frequency of collisions and generating heat, until the massive ball of hydrogen ignites and becomes a sun.

The pressure and temperature continues to rise until it reaches a ‘flash point’ (around 14 million kelvin). Up until this point the positive nuclei of the hydrogen atoms would repel each other, but under the immense heat and pressure they are forcefully fused together. When two hydrogen atoms are fused, the result is a helium atom which consists of two protons, two neutrons and two electrons. This process releases massive amounts of energy which fuels the star. As the pressure and temperature increases, the helium atoms are fused to create new heavier elements, which are then fused to create even newer elements.

Once the star begins to run out of hydrogen, it starts to die and expands into a red giant. During this period, if the star is large enough it will begin to fuse 3 helium atoms to create a carbon atom. Depending on the size of the star, it will continue a series of fusions producing elements from oxygen through to iron.

Once the hydrogen has been depleted, the heavier elements rush into the stars core. It becomes so heavy that it cannot withstand its own gravitational force and it collapses. The result is a giant explosion of a supernova. The extreme pressure and temperature of this process produces elements heavier than iron such as gold and uranium, which are expelled out into the cosmos.

As stars collapse and shoot various elements into space, these particles get pulled towards other suns and become stuck in their gravity. The heavier elements tend to orbit closer to the sun which combine to form rocky planets while lighter elements tend to orbit further away and create gas planets.

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The key element for life is carbon as it can bond with a vast range of different elements creating the complicated 'combinations' necessaryfor life forms. The ring of 'dust' that created our planet could have already contained the elements necessary for life but as the temperature was too high they could not bond. As the planet cooled to a certain temperature it may have allowed for the reactions to take place that resulted in the molecules for early life.

Having said that, the elements necessary for the vast range of complex life forms we see today would have required extra elements from asteroids and what not.



:thumbup: Why my title is what it is


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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
-Robert A. Heinlein 

:takingnotes: Links and teks:takingnotes:
ND's grow log and discussion
Plant thread

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: NDStepp84]
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NDStepp84 said:
:thumbup: Why my title is what it is



:lol:

I wouldn't say waste xo :wink:


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The only reason why T-rex's can't walk backwards is because they're extinct, which perfectly explains why there are no headaches in the rainforest; The parrots eat 'em all.

My Drawings

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