wowimflabbergasted said:

This may be the simulation where evolution was tried...set it in motion and see what happens. There probably are other simulations with something completely different happening. I don't see a reason why this couldn't be possible. Anybody here watch Black Mirror? That show is trippy AF.

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What we don't do and what I think is incredibly dangerous is this sort on the one hand on the other myth of moral equivalence on every issue because once you start buying into that then that itself becomes muddying about the line between truth and lies, fact and fiction and that is something we as journalists need to be pushing back on, we need to be unapologetic about pushing a fact based debate and be transparent about opinions and perspectives when they exist.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts. Embrace that ideal without apology, and to make sure that we are being fair and to understand that our credibility comes from our ability to criticise from a position of independence. That and we can't let the tail wag the dog in these important debates.

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PussyFart said:

Where dinosaurs came from...

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Best post I've seen all year. Thank you

PussyFart said:

Where dinosaurs came from...

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oontribe said:

How some naked people living in the amazon knew that if you combine two different specific plants out of thousands and thousands of other plants in the amazon, cooked in a certain way, gives you a spiritual psychedelic experience (ayahuasca)?

Materialists scientists's opinions makes life seems so dull, not mysterious, meaningless (its all about surviving and reproduction) and boring.

Science is very limited, especially when it comes to matters of death, the origin of the universe, the universe and our mind.

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redgreenvines said:

this is an impatient analogy of what takes place over many millions of years - first at a chemical level, then with membrane and fibre, later with ribosomes and nucleotides and protein, and only then with the cellular subunits - life:

not in just one storm but a billion storms or more.
eventually living sub-units converge and collaborate, and millions of years later the bony creatures emerge from the seas.

junkyard mentality is not relevant, not until long after the caves and huts.

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What is the chance of billions of hurricanes in a jankyard would create a complicated flying jet?

wowimflabbergasted said:

PussyFart said:

Where dinosaurs came from...

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lol!

oontribe said:

How some naked people living in the amazon knew that if you combine two different specific plants out of thousands and thousands of other plants in the amazon, cooked in a certain way, gives you a spiritual psychedelic experience (ayahuasca)?

Materialists scientists's opinions makes life seems so dull, not mysterious, meaningless (its all about surviving and reproduction) and boring.

Science is very limited, especially when it comes to matters of death, the origin of the universe, the universe and our mind.

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lol dude what? I'm sure quite a few people died/got sick/didn't trip at all eating the wrong mushrooms and plants before they found the right ones. You think they just chose the right plants and shrooms on the first try? Come on now.

Science is limited when it comes to the universe? Quantum physics? Science is proving new things about the universe everyday. They are trying to find out if black holes are portals, we can travel faster than light, etc...how is it limited? They don't rule out much of anything when it comes to the universe - because we really don't know.

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I was just saying that science doesn't have all the answers

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oontribe said:

wowimflabbergasted said:

oontribe said:

How some naked people living in the amazon knew that if you combine two different specific plants out of thousands and thousands of other plants in the amazon, cooked in a certain way, gives you a spiritual psychedelic experience (ayahuasca)?

Materialists scientists's opinions makes life seems so dull, not mysterious, meaningless (its all about surviving and reproduction) and boring.

Science is very limited, especially when it comes to matters of death, the origin of the universe, the universe and our mind.

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lol dude what? I'm sure quite a few people died/got sick/didn't trip at all eating the wrong mushrooms and plants before they found the right ones. You think they just chose the right plants and shrooms on the first try? Come on now.

Science is limited when it comes to the universe? Quantum physics? Science is proving new things about the universe everyday. They are trying to find out if black holes are portals, we can travel faster than light, etc...how is it limited? They don't rule out much of anything when it comes to the universe - because we really don't know.

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I wasn't talking about mushrooms, thats a different story.

I was talking about ayahuasca, i mean what is the chance of picking two plants in certain quantities out of 40000 species in the forest, prepare them in a certain way to trip?

Trial and error? But why they were seeking a trip in the first place?

Were they desperately looking for food in the amazon so they picked those two specific plants and cooked them in this specific way!
Doesn't seem legit.

And about the universe those theories will change when we get more advanced as it has always been with science.
Everyone thought that the earth was flat and it made sense too back then.

And whats up with the alians and gods?

And do you mind asking you, how do you personally explain your spiritual experiences or entities encounters when you are on psychedelics?

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Trial and error over thousands of years, yes. We used to live solely in places that had a lot of these plants. Probably tried a lot more than you realize. Probably didn't know it would trip them out at first either. But afterwards...when they didn't die...fuck yeah bro let's do that again lol

Gods are made up because people need an explanation for things in life and to feel like they aren't insignificant. And just because they don't know better. Need rain? Pray to the rain god. Sun? Sun god. Etc....science and religion have gone head to head ever since they existed because science gives rational explanations to religions bullshit claims.

Aliens? Totally aliens....the thought that we are the only intelligent beings in a universe with trillions of fucking planets is downright stupid.

Explanation for entities? I dunno...I have mental problems I see shit when I'm not tripping

wowimflabbergasted said:

This may be the simulation where evolution was tried...set it in motion and see what happens. There probably are other simulations with something completely different happening. I don't see a reason why this couldn't be possible. Anybody here watch Black Mirror? That show is trippy AF.

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They touched upon simulation in the Virtual reality episode with the oversized spider in the house, though it's more to do with how technology is actually severely influencing the status quo and possible, near-future events.  This radical shift in technology is profound, akin to the impact of the Industrial Revolution. 

'Black Mirror' is a metaphor for a screen (turned off).

I used to call this issue 'Screens Disease' but this series has not only managed to capture a better title, but everything about it captures my overall philosophy.

I was stunned that Charlie Brooker was the writer and that was a lessons in itself to withhold judgement.  Despite not previously favouring the man, it just shows what value people can hold in their minds and how valuable it can be when expressed through creative means.

wowimflabbergasted said:

Was that the episode where the guy is supposed to test some new VR gaming technology? EVery episode is so different but my favorite was the one where they copied people into little devices to do all the house stuff for them and got that dude to admit to his wrongdoings. Great show.

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