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Faustian Nihilism
    #11083065 - 09/18/09 12:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Someone brought to mind a recent thread about Nihilism and "fascism," by which modern people mean any system of government that motivates people to act in some way other than for their personal pleasure and wealth:

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Faustian Nihilism is the optimal nihilism Nietzsche aspired to conquer its peak. And according to him, he accomplished that task - for has overcame nihilism to become the first actual nihilist. It is a life endorsing Nihilism, that accepts life as a whole, life as comedy, unholiness, and tragedy - in Goethe's spirit. It calls for action, overcoming logical and meditative complexities and for actual completeness (compilation of mind and matter of ideal and reality, of logic and pathos). This Nihilism is not that of individualism, but of certain individuals / groups who are capable of changing their surroundings by attaining power, by their realistic and visionary approach. Faustian Nihilism, more then the two previous form seeks the reevaluation of all values Nietzsche speaks of. The same way Goethe's protagonist, the old scientist / philosopher tried to get a full taste of life.

Nihilism and fascism?





Nihilism is to my mind reducing life into cause and effect, removing the mediating effect of human "knowing" as described by Nietzsche in On Truth and Lies in a Non-Moral Sense.

Long before I read Nietzsche or Plato, I knew that most people separate life into mind and body, but what really makes sense is to look for structure beneath appearance -- not a separation, because the two create other, but an understanding of the chains of causes that produce that final appearance, instead of taking appearance at face value.

This is Faustian Nihilism. We do not embrace comforting solutions, but strive to be ultra-realists who recognize that, as conscious actors, we also have the ability to aesthetically choose to pick the best of life. We love life; we confront its emptiness head-on, and in the warrior spirit, make beauty from it. We are not afraid of nothingness and in fact we worship it. Without nothingness, somethingness would be impossible.

Faustian Nihilism negates all of which is not connected to this vision of life as an interconnected whole produced by causal chains. If there is a God, in our view, he, she or it is not separate from the world but a manifestation or patterning to the world. Faustian Nihilism is inherently idealistic (meaning: reality is thought-correlative, or formed of the same patterns and structure as thoughts) because we recognize that organization and structure are more important than the material in which they manifest. This in turn lets us know that the ends "justify" the means, or rather, that goals are more important than whatever stands in the way of us accomplishing them.

Including our fear of nothingness, death, horror and sadness.

Faustian Nihilism transcends the "opportunity cost" of life, which is that for every great thing, there must be an equal and opposite reaction, or great sadness. Life demands death. But then again, without that death, life would not be so sweet.

It is an ultimate form of maturity that allows us to retain our inner childlike wonder at the universe and its mechanisms, and as such, is more reverent than most interpretations of religion. If God is the cosmos and reality, Faustian Nihilism is the most advanced form of the worship of God.

Where most will use judgments in their minds to seal reality into little categories, and hide behind manipulating appearance to make life less scary, we say: only forward, only onward, only upward. Take the pain in hand and charge forward to make something so great it balances the pain.

Infinity awaits.

Allahu ackbar!
Elohim Gadol!
Praise God from whom all blessings flow!

The emptiness is our ally and the source of our transcendence. Evil and Good, Positive and Negative, Life and Death are all part of God, of whom the world is the visible manifestation.

All things are connected and all that matters is the pattern language which enables us to design goals that match emptiness with greatness.

We love life.

We have choice but not free will: we are created in its image by the universe, not the other way around. We are part of the world, and it is not contained within us. Only the structure and clarity of thought matters, and from this we formulate our goals, and with our goals, we create a balance and surpassing of Death.

Nihil Omnis Est

(From Elohim Gadol!)





I don't think most people overcome doubt, so they're afraid of anything like nihilism because they fear they will have nothing to value if their false idols and ikons are destroyed.


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Re: Faustian Nihilism [Re: Conservationist]
    #11083099 - 09/18/09 12:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting thread.

I hope it gets going. I've been attempting something like this in my own clumsy way. It's very difficult for me at times, to overcome my early programming.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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