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LuSiD9
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: Ahimsa]
#11390923 - 11/05/09 01:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nihilism is... denying the existence of anything

not quite buddy
Nihilism
hate to post a wikipedia link.... but I think you may benefit.
-------------------- Nothing is true, everything is permissible. Our laws make law impossible; our liberties destroy all freedom; our property is organized robbery; our morality an impudent hypocrisy; our wisdom is administered by inexperienced or mal-experienced dupes; our power wielded by cowards and weaklings; and our honour false in all its points. I am an enemy of the existing order for good reasons.
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: LuSiD9]
#11390981 - 11/05/09 01:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah that sounds more like solipsism.
Am I the only one who is scared by solipsism? Nihilism is workable... but solipsism makes me think of psychopathy.
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: astronaut]
#11390993 - 11/05/09 01:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Solipsism is complete stupid horse shit. 
Just crush a bug, and you'll know what I mean. Maybe.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: astronaut]
#11391016 - 11/05/09 01:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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astronaut said: solipsism makes me think of psychopathy.
makes me think of schizophrenia more than psychopathy
I wandered down that road a little farther than I should have at one point in my life (solipsism)
still hard to shake it off to this day... I just about completely lost it
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astronaut said:
Am I the only one who is scared by solipsism?
no
-------------------- Nothing is true, everything is permissible. Our laws make law impossible; our liberties destroy all freedom; our property is organized robbery; our morality an impudent hypocrisy; our wisdom is administered by inexperienced or mal-experienced dupes; our power wielded by cowards and weaklings; and our honour false in all its points. I am an enemy of the existing order for good reasons.
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: LuSiD9]
#11391203 - 11/05/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok. Generally speaking nihilism is something different from what i think it should be. But then tell me, is there a name for the belief that there isn't a single thing that exists on its own? That there are no 'things' as such, nothing 'in itself'?
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LuSiD9
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: Ahimsa]
#11391438 - 11/05/09 02:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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so you mean the belief that nothing exists... at all?
Don't know if there's a name for it... psychosis perhaps?
I'm not sure how that would be possible... as there's obviously something
-------------------- Nothing is true, everything is permissible. Our laws make law impossible; our liberties destroy all freedom; our property is organized robbery; our morality an impudent hypocrisy; our wisdom is administered by inexperienced or mal-experienced dupes; our power wielded by cowards and weaklings; and our honour false in all its points. I am an enemy of the existing order for good reasons.
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: LuSiD9]
#11391467 - 11/05/09 02:52 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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LuSiD9 said: there's obviously something
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: LuSiD9]
#11391479 - 11/05/09 02:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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LuSiD9 said:
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Nihilism is... denying the existence of anything

not quite buddy
Nihilism
hate to post a wikipedia link.... but I think you may benefit.
Check out the NIHILISM THREAD here. I would love your input.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: Poid]
#11395463 - 11/06/09 01:19 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Poid said: Solipsism is complete stupid horse shit. 
Just crush a bug, and you'll know what I mean. Maybe. 
it can't be crushed, it's crept away.
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*Poid smashes an annoying spider that krept of on his keyboard*
What was that? I couldn't hear you, I was busy...
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: Poid]
#11407906 - 11/07/09 08:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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where there was one there will be more.
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The dodo bird.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: Poid]
#11422824 - 11/09/09 10:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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fun, irreverence
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You must not have gotten the point.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: Poid]
#11431154 - 11/11/09 03:40 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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nope, i didn't get your last post... alright? oh and i didn't mean to say it was your comment alone that was irreverent. i mean, it's useless to try and argue over the net, especially when you are going to get the same kind of assertions no matter what... i guess i'm just not a message boards kinda guy, i'll go hang myself now. ;(
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: LuSiD9]
#11431257 - 11/11/09 04:47 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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LuSiD9 said: so you mean the belief that nothing exists... at all?
Don't know if there's a name for it... psychosis perhaps?
I'm not sure how that would be possible... as there's obviously something
Not 'nothing exists' but 'nothing exists in itself'. See, one may say things exist in themselves or things don't exist at all, but what about things existing 'co-dependently'? First lets agree about the term 'co-dependently' please. Yes?
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: Ahimsa]
#11431294 - 11/11/09 05:02 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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thats so metal
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have a grateful day motherfuckers!
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headyfunkup said: thats so metal
I don't understand the term 'metal' in this context ?!
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: Ahimsa]
#11433511 - 11/11/09 02:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ahimsa said:
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LuSiD9 said: so you mean the belief that nothing exists... at all?
Don't know if there's a name for it... psychosis perhaps?
I'm not sure how that would be possible... as there's obviously something
Not 'nothing exists' but 'nothing exists in itself'. See, one may say things exist in themselves or things don't exist at all, but what about things existing 'co-dependently'? First lets agree about the term 'co-dependently' please. Yes?

not following you man...
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Re: Roots of Nihilism? [Re: Ahimsa]
#11438013 - 11/11/09 11:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ahimsa said:
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headyfunkup said: thats so metal
I don't understand the term 'metal' in this context ?!
i guess youve never seen metalocolypse
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have a grateful day motherfuckers!
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