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 Anno
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 Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS 
#866271 - 09/05/02 08:55 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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I decided to test a rye grain for the water absorbing ability.
I weigted out 3 time 100 gram rye grain.
Experiments:
1. 100 g rye were dried in the oven at 140?C for 90 minutes
2. 100 g rye were simmered in 500 ml of water for 30 minutes (rye grain put in boiling water)
3. 100 g rye were simmered in 500 ml of water for 40 minutes (rye grain put in boiling water)
Results:
1. The 100 g rye grain in the oven dried to 88 g -> 12% moisture content.
2. After 20 minutes of draining the grain weighted 190 g, nearly no exploded kernels ->(12g+90g)/190g = 54% moisture content
3. After 20 minutes of draining the grain weighted 200 g, more exploded kernels, I?d say at the limit ->(12g+100g)/200g = 56% moisture content
Conclusion:
Preparing grain by simmering it is a viable option. It shows that the amounts usually used when one mixes grain and water directly (100g grain and 100g-110g water) are similar(a little higher) as if one simmers the grain for around 40 minutes.
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: Anno]
#866278 - 09/05/02 09:14 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks Anno...I was just wondering about that, now I don't have to test it myself...
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: Anno]
#866280 - 09/05/02 09:16 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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great test! was the grain dropped into boiling water or brought to the boil from cold? i must try it out for soaking grain overnight
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Anno
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: blackout]
#866309 - 09/05/02 10:05 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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>was the grain dropped into boiling water or brought to the boil from cold?
Read my post, please.
Edited by Anno (09/05/02 10:06 PM)
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: Anno]
#866336 - 09/05/02 11:05 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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sorry anno! i must be going blind from all the porn
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: blackout]
#866416 - 09/06/02 02:39 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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For blackout:
I once let rye grain soak overnight before pressure cooking, but the exloded kernel amount was enormous, compared to the usual amount. And some germs already began developping: as I opened the closed jars, some yucky smell with a hissing sound got out of the jars! I pressure cooked them all the same, and all went well.
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: Anno]
#866503 - 09/06/02 04:28 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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if i am converting your grams measurement of water into milliliters.....i think milliliters makes more sense for a liquid...and it's the unit of measurement on my measuring cups.....wouldn't i multiply by the specific gravity of water...namely 1? which would mean that 100 g of water is 100 milliliters of water? my grains have been sort of dry looking and i'm trying to fix that.. i think some of the water may be evaporating through the filter caps..
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: LilMerlin]
#866586 - 09/06/02 05:29 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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LilMerlin: that is strange i got no exploded kernels even when i left it for 2 days. i find it usually looks much drier if just soaked and pcd rather than simmered and pcd
vaporbrains: 1ml water is 1g (approx) you are correct thats the beauty of the metric system.
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: blackout]
#867800 - 09/06/02 06:21 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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>1ml water is 1g (approx) you are correct thats the beauty of the metric system.
no, 1ml water is 1g (exactly!). At standard temp. and pressure obviously;)
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: blackout]
#868005 - 09/06/02 09:10 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
LilMerlin: that is strange i got no exploded kernels even when i left it for 2 days. i find it usually looks much drier if just soaked and pcd rather than simmered and pcd
Strange indeed! Maybe it's the water content (175g rye / 230 water) or the type of rye. I heard that there were two types of rye from a French friend.
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: Anno]
#868120 - 09/06/02 11:08 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Conclusion:
Preparing grain by simmering it is a viable option.
hell, i coulda told you that,
been doing it that way quite awhile now with good success.
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Anno
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: Hippie3]
#868132 - 09/07/02 12:01 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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>hell, i coulda told you that,
>been doing it that way quite awhile now with good success.
Hehe, yeah, but a report without a conclusion is no report 
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 Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: Anno]
#868779 - 09/07/02 10:57 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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is the rye grain you used of the organic Health Food Store variety or is it some other kind? my friend buys his from an organic food store at $1.85 a pound. barley can be had for 85 cents a pound. oat groats, millet, and other grains are also to be found.
Also, perhaps you could write a report comparing various features of oat groats, millet, birdseed, barley, etc... (i.e. water content, nutrients, growth rates, etc.)
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: ]
#869535 - 09/07/02 04:04 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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> perhaps you could write a report comparing various features of oat groats, millet, birdseed, barley, etc...
haha, I could, but i won?t, I don?t have THAT much time....
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: Anno]
#874850 - 09/10/02 12:48 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just did a moisture analysis on some rye grain i bought from Fungi Perfecti about 2 years ago. Bag is double sealed (w/ interior sealed with what appears to be some kind of wax covered paper) organic rye grain.
100 g dried in oven for 2 hrs @ 300 Fahrenheit (~ 149 C) massed out at 87.7 g
Very similar results Anno. I am not sure why Stamets recommends an 8 hr dry, as I have noticed no statistically significant difference with most compounds between a 90 min or 120 min drying time.
oh well...
I think I am going to try do a colony count for bacteria and molds once I get some extra time
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: Anno]
#1708846 - 07/12/03 03:39 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you sir.
This is very helpful.
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: Anno]
#1710997 - 07/13/03 08:24 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: ]
#1711730 - 07/13/03 03:11 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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From reading TMC, wheat is mentioned as basically the same as Rye , does that include the amount of water that you use to soak and P.C. ?
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: 284_27]
#1711740 - 07/13/03 03:15 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I prepare rye grains, I always soak for 24 hours, then do a 15-30 minute simmer. Works great for the bags.
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Re: Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS [Re: 284_27]
#1713662 - 07/14/03 08:02 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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