Home | Community | Message Board


World Seed Supply
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation >> Mushroom Cultivation Archive >> Substrates

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Bulk Substrate, North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Left Coast Kratom Kratom Powder For Sale   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds, Bulk Cannabis Seeds, Feminized Cannabis Seeds, High THC Strains, USA West Coast Strains   Amazon ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Rye Grain

Jump to first unread post. Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | Next >  [ show all ]
Offlinerealrasta
man in my closet

Registered: 01/19/03
Posts: 171
Last seen: 14 years, 5 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Seuss]
    #1755529 - 07/28/03 10:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

im just happy its going on. thanks anno


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleafoaf
CEO DBK?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/08/02
Posts: 32,665
Loc: Ripple's Heart
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1756977 - 07/28/03 07:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

what a tease...

want me to house sit for you?


--------------------
All I know is The Growery is a place where losers who get banned here go.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineBaby_Hitler
Errorist
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 24,912
Loc: To the limit!
Last seen: 1 hour, 31 minutes
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1757186 - 07/28/03 09:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm really curious to see how or if potency is related to tryptophan content.

BTW, Whey protein powder has about 20 times as much tryptophan as brown rice.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleEffedS
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/15/02
Posts: 7,368
Loc: Daylight Slavings
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1757332 - 07/28/03 09:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Its really sounding great anno!
Im impressed as always. :heart:  :thumbup:


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinecupid
Trust noone

Registered: 03/23/03
Posts: 54
Last seen: 17 years, 5 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Effed]
    #1761140 - 07/29/03 11:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

see now mr hitler is on to something i never considered whey powder i'll look into it


--------------------
Final last words... What's this button do ?


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinelemunhed
The hustler'shustler

Registered: 05/12/03
Posts: 775
Loc: Ur moms house
Last seen: 15 years, 7 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1761274 - 07/29/03 11:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Baby_Hitler said:
BTW, Whey protein powder has about 20 times as much tryptophan as brown rice. 




Whoa.... lets hold the boat here. Hitler, if you have ever done any grows with that could you PM me or post and give me some info? would be infinitely thankful :wink:


--------------------
You're pompeius, aren't you? I'll make a pompeian of you unless you hold your toungue!

-Tiberius Claudius Nero


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineshakta
Infidel
Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 2,633
Last seen: 16 years, 9 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1762141 - 07/30/03 10:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I got a big ass jar of that stuff too. Maybe I will try a few jars. Think subbing it for the BRF in PF Tek jars would work?


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineRaadt
nicht

Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 2,107
Loc: azurescending
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1762307 - 07/30/03 11:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If you would like to fly me to austria, I would gladly take care of your crops for you =D


--------------------
Raadt

-- The information I provide is only information from readings, growing of gourmet mushrooms, and second hand stories--


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineBaby_Hitler
Errorist
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 24,912
Loc: To the limit!
Last seen: 1 hour, 31 minutes
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: lemunhed]
    #1762443 - 07/30/03 12:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

As far as I know whey powder has not been tried. I would only use it as a supplement, not a replacement for anything.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offline284_27
Indocybin

Registered: 07/13/03
Posts: 193
Last seen: 9 months, 19 days
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1763619 - 07/30/03 07:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

damn , i wanted that credit . LMAO


--------------------
"I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have."
- Thomas Jefferson

Fly high and I will meet you there .
- Timothy Leary


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleKOPELANDIAA
Stranger
Registered: 11/17/01
Posts: 805
Loc: under a pine
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: 284_27]
    #1765929 - 07/31/03 02:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i'm in love with this thread, experiment and all those questions wich poping in our minds right now ! Thanks Anno ! Enjoy your vaccations !


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibledeanofmean
mycophagous

Registered: 12/07/02
Posts: 2,017
Loc: PNW
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1765995 - 07/31/03 02:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Baby_Hitler said:

BTW, Whey protein powder has about 20 times as much tryptophan as brown rice. 




hmmm, shrooms on steroids ? :nut:

i'd be afraid that it might make my tits grow .  you try it first . :lol:



 


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinemegaman3
Stranger
Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 274
Last seen: 14 years, 8 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: deanofmean]
    #1822350 - 08/17/03 11:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Has this thread been abandoned? There hasn't been a post in almost 3 weeks!


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleBrainFarmer
Farmicist

Registered: 03/06/03
Posts: 545
Loc: lounging betwixt lobes...
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: megaman3]
    #1822611 - 08/17/03 02:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

anno went on vacation.  the thread's chill'n in his fridge :wink:

 


--------------------
Gate Gate Paragate Parasamgate Bodhisvah

Formula: 0


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinemegaman3
Stranger
Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 274
Last seen: 14 years, 8 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: BrainFarmer]
    #1825400 - 08/18/03 09:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Oh right! I had read that and I forgot. Well, I hope that the refridgeration won't skew the results


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTekNut
********

Registered: 01/01/03
Posts: 382
Loc: TX Gulf Coast
Last seen: 10 years, 9 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: megaman3]
    #1825618 - 08/18/03 11:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Refridgeration is good for chillin'!  :wink:

Isn't it funny how vacations seem to last forever unless it's YOUR vacation??  :smile:

Peace,
-TekNut- 


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinemegaman3
Stranger
Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 274
Last seen: 14 years, 8 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: TekNut]
    #1825659 - 08/18/03 12:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

LOL TekNut, I never noticed that.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMycena
mycoexplorer
Registered: 05/02/03
Posts: 270
Loc: indonesia
Last seen: 8 years, 10 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1825717 - 08/18/03 12:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

so you are saying that 5% supplementation with whey powder on BRF effectively doubles trp content?

Sesame seed apparently has 0.5% trp and sunflowers eeds and hulls are pretty good too....


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMycena
mycoexplorer
Registered: 05/02/03
Posts: 270
Loc: indonesia
Last seen: 8 years, 10 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Mycena]
    #1825833 - 08/18/03 01:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Have to agree with Bluemeanie about millet - its great stuff
Smaller and so sterilises more evenly, more innoculation points and nutritious

I did some web research a while ago to look at alternative formulations for possible 5 hydroxytryptophan biosynth using a species of Panaeolus.

Of the millets Fox and Pearl came up the highest at 191 and 121 mg/g trp respectively (Sources: FAO. 1970a; Indira and Naik. 1971.). Pearl is generally easier to find

Apart from sesame at 0.5% , soy bean meal compared favourably at 0.7%
Fish meal and blood meal were 0.75 and 1% respectively. It is certainly more likely that the former sources would be more aesthetically pleasing in a cake as well as cheaper.

Brown rice flour isnt so bad. It has more trp than corn for example which is notoriously deficient. BRF has several attribute that make it suitable for cakes that Rye, barely, wheat and potato flours lack. - try them out - theyre awful solid as a rock or gluggy.
Millet flour is good in cakes but not quite as structurally good as BRF - i think a mix might be good especially ammended with high trp supplements.

I once made wheat spawn ammended with a fraction of TVP (Textured vegetable protein)(made from soy) - worked wonderfully - the density and vigour of the mycelium was second only to the time i saw some on rabbit shit w/ wheat straw - In both cases the density and satin sheen of the mycelium made it look more like one of its woodloving cousins than the regular sort.

If the results do come back as indicating a correlation between trp and potency perhaps a Polenta based cake (tested for low trp) plus increasing increments of trp (from supplements) followedby analysis could give a more meaningful result that would meet scientific scrutiny




Edited by Mycena (08/19/03 08:42 AM)


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMycena
mycoexplorer
Registered: 05/02/03
Posts: 270
Loc: indonesia
Last seen: 8 years, 10 months
Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Mycena]
    #1825846 - 08/18/03 01:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

And im told the potency floored the consumers - they od'd by a factor of about 50% on what they were expecting ie took 3 got 4.5


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: North Spore Bulk Substrate, North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Left Coast Kratom Kratom Powder For Sale   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds, Bulk Cannabis Seeds, Feminized Cannabis Seeds, High THC Strains, USA West Coast Strains   Amazon ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Rye Grain

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation >> Mushroom Cultivation Archive >> Substrates

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Cracked Corn Substrate Preparation.
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 all )
EffedS 69,690 137 08/19/04 12:07 AM
by Pugslee_Atoms420
* Popcorn as grain substrate?
( 1 2 3 4 ... 26 27 )
Baby_Hitler 143,986 521 08/12/03 11:04 PM
by lalala
* Homemade filter discs test and free samples!
( 1 2 3 all )
AnnoA 17,640 58 06/20/02 03:01 PM
by Anno
* Oat flakes cake- Alternative substrate experiment pictorial.
( 1 2 3 all )
MAIA 37,625 41 10/20/03 04:03 PM
by schorts
* Preparing rye grain - TEST RESULTS
( 1 2 all )
AnnoA 29,072 27 07/17/03 05:43 PM
by Snobrdr311
* Bulk Neglect Report *completed*
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
mycofile 57,850 92 08/07/02 06:25 AM
by nonsence
* Enhanced Psilocybin Production (7.5 G Psilocybin)
( 1 2 all )
00Zen 23,984 34 01/25/02 10:27 PM
by Champion des Champignons
* Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
eatyualive 60,977 97 09/09/03 03:28 PM
by BatFly

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Ythan, Anno, Thor, Link, Seuss, Asante, FooMan
78,965 topic views. 0 members, 2 guests and 1 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Print Topic ]
Search this thread:
Zamnesia.com
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2021 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.045 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 14 queries.