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Offlinerealrasta
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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Seuss]
    #1755529 - 07/28/03 10:21 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

im just happy its going on. thanks anno


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1756977 - 07/28/03 07:33 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

what a tease...

want me to house sit for you?


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1757186 - 07/28/03 09:00 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I'm really curious to see how or if potency is related to tryptophan content.

BTW, Whey protein powder has about 20 times as much tryptophan as brown rice.


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1757332 - 07/28/03 09:49 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Its really sounding great anno!
Im impressed as always. :heart:  :thumbup:


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Offlinecupid
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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Effed]
    #1761140 - 07/29/03 11:18 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

see now mr hitler is on to something i never considered whey powder i'll look into it


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Offlinelemunhed
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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1761274 - 07/29/03 11:57 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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BTW, Whey protein powder has about 20 times as much tryptophan as brown rice. 




Whoa.... lets hold the boat here. Hitler, if you have ever done any grows with that could you PM me or post and give me some info? would be infinitely thankful :wink:


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1762141 - 07/30/03 10:00 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I got a big ass jar of that stuff too. Maybe I will try a few jars. Think subbing it for the BRF in PF Tek jars would work?


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1762307 - 07/30/03 11:38 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

If you would like to fly me to austria, I would gladly take care of your crops for you =D


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: lemunhed]
    #1762443 - 07/30/03 12:56 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

As far as I know whey powder has not been tried. I would only use it as a supplement, not a replacement for anything.


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1763619 - 07/30/03 07:32 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

damn , i wanted that credit . LMAO


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: 284_27]
    #1765929 - 07/31/03 02:06 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

i'm in love with this thread, experiment and all those questions wich poping in our minds right now ! Thanks Anno ! Enjoy your vaccations !


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Invisibledeanofmean
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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1765995 - 07/31/03 02:34 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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BTW, Whey protein powder has about 20 times as much tryptophan as brown rice. 




hmmm, shrooms on steroids ? :nut:

i'd be afraid that it might make my tits grow .  you try it first . :lol:



 


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: deanofmean]
    #1822350 - 08/17/03 11:44 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Has this thread been abandoned? There hasn't been a post in almost 3 weeks!


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: megaman3]
    #1822611 - 08/17/03 02:20 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

anno went on vacation.  the thread's chill'n in his fridge :wink:

 


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: BrainFarmer]
    #1825400 - 08/18/03 09:22 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Oh right! I had read that and I forgot. Well, I hope that the refridgeration won't skew the results


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: megaman3]
    #1825618 - 08/18/03 11:53 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Refridgeration is good for chillin'!  :wink:

Isn't it funny how vacations seem to last forever unless it's YOUR vacation??  :smile:

Peace,
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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: TekNut]
    #1825659 - 08/18/03 12:26 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

LOL TekNut, I never noticed that.


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OfflineMycena
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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1825717 - 08/18/03 12:50 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

so you are saying that 5% supplementation with whey powder on BRF effectively doubles trp content?

Sesame seed apparently has 0.5% trp and sunflowers eeds and hulls are pretty good too....


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OfflineMycena
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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Mycena]
    #1825833 - 08/18/03 01:28 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Have to agree with Bluemeanie about millet - its great stuff
Smaller and so sterilises more evenly, more innoculation points and nutritious

I did some web research a while ago to look at alternative formulations for possible 5 hydroxytryptophan biosynth using a species of Panaeolus.

Of the millets Fox and Pearl came up the highest at 191 and 121 mg/g trp respectively (Sources: FAO. 1970a; Indira and Naik. 1971.). Pearl is generally easier to find

Apart from sesame at 0.5% , soy bean meal compared favourably at 0.7%
Fish meal and blood meal were 0.75 and 1% respectively. It is certainly more likely that the former sources would be more aesthetically pleasing in a cake as well as cheaper.

Brown rice flour isnt so bad. It has more trp than corn for example which is notoriously deficient. BRF has several attribute that make it suitable for cakes that Rye, barely, wheat and potato flours lack. - try them out - theyre awful solid as a rock or gluggy.
Millet flour is good in cakes but not quite as structurally good as BRF - i think a mix might be good especially ammended with high trp supplements.

I once made wheat spawn ammended with a fraction of TVP (Textured vegetable protein)(made from soy) - worked wonderfully - the density and vigour of the mycelium was second only to the time i saw some on rabbit shit w/ wheat straw - In both cases the density and satin sheen of the mycelium made it look more like one of its woodloving cousins than the regular sort.

If the results do come back as indicating a correlation between trp and potency perhaps a Polenta based cake (tested for low trp) plus increasing increments of trp (from supplements) followedby analysis could give a more meaningful result that would meet scientific scrutiny




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OfflineMycena
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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Mycena]
    #1825846 - 08/18/03 01:32 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

And im told the potency floored the consumers - they od'd by a factor of about 50% on what they were expecting ie took 3 got 4.5


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