Magash said:

A very simple grain tek.

I like to use rye do to the fact that I case the grain directly and don?t use it for spawn which I find wbs better for. The rye holds more water so it allows for larger flushes in my exp, others may differ we all have our own ways of doing things this is just what I do.

1. First I prepare the grain by putting it in a strainer and shaking the dust off of it one cup at a time. I then put the cup of grain or rye in my case into a quart jar and fill the jar with water and let it soak for 24 hours. My reason for doing this is that bacteria endospores that form on grain can survive the PC so we let the little fuckers germinate and then PC them.

2. Then take the rye and pour out the water. Your gonna see that it has turned piss yellow. Then take the grain and put it into a pot add water so the grain is nicely covered and simmer it for 40 to 45 minutes. You?ll notice some of the rye grain starting to burst and the grain has turned brown and swollen up quite a bit.

3. Pour the water out and put the grain into a challender or strainer and let it drain. I myself like to rinse it off after the simmer.

4. Now load the rye into the jars, I like quarts so that is what I use. Leave enough room at the top of the jar for you to shake the grain around . I didn't have any jars with just grain but you get the idea. No extra water is needed to be added to the jars just the grain. I like to set up my jars like this, metal lid, tyvek and then the band.



I like tyvek for a few reasons. Nice to write on, and easy to make with a cookie cutter in a hour you can make enough disks for life . Then PC the jars at 15psi for 1 hour and let them cool. Little hint, if you take them out when they are still hot as hell and shake them they won?t clump up when they cool.

5. Once cool I like to add between 2 and 3 cc or mil to each jar. 3 if I made the syringe 2 if I bought one to add a strain to the collection. I push the needle right threw the tyvek over the small hole in the metal lid. Easy to find the hole if you hold the jar slanted toward a light. I Cover with a band aid because they come sterile already .

6. Once the jars are all shot up so to say shake them like a crazed nut. Mix them up as good as you can so the spores start all over the jar. In 9 days to 3 weeks max your jars will look like this .

7. Make your casing with whatever casing mix you decide to use and let them sit in the incubator for 4 to 7 days then birth.

My average total time from the time I shoot them up till the first harvest with this grain tek is 4 to 5 weeks.

South Americans at 4 weeks after shooting up the jars.

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manic231 said:

...yellow, might that be removing nutrients from the rye? One more thing,

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manic231 said:

, might it be a good idea to instead simmer the rye with the original (now piss) water to regain any lost nutrients?

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Magash's Simple Rye/WBS Tek

1. Obtain rye grain ('Rye Berries') or wild bird seed (WBS).

2. Put one cup of rye in a strainer and shake off the dust.

3. Dump the rye into a quart jar, fill with water and let soak for 24 hours. (This germinates bacterial endospores for destruction in step 7)

4. Discard the soak water and dump the rye into a large pot. Add enough clean water to cover the rye and simmer for 45 minutes. Some of the rye will start to burst and it will turn brown and swell. (Alternate method, skips step 2&3, simmer for 1 hour)

5. Discard the water, rinse the rye with fresh water and drain.

6. Fill quart jars 2/3's to 3/4's with rye. Put lids on the jars with a Tyvek(*NB) disk between the lid and band.

7. Pressure cook the jars at 15psi for 1 hour. To avoid clumping when the rye is cool, shake the jars while they are still hot as hell.

8. When cool, innoculate through the Tyvek with 2-3ml of spore solution and seal the syringe hole.

9. Shake the jars well to distribute the spores. In 9 to 20 days the jars should be fully colonized.

10. Case the rye and allow to incubate for 3-4 days.

Total time from innoculation to harvest is 4-5 weeks.

*NB : Tyvek can be obtained from USPS Priority Mail envelopes that are labeled 'DuPont Tyvek', use the whole envelope.

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First of all i would like to use pint jars for a smaller scale....would this be a problem??

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How long do you let the rye drain after simmering???

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when i put the spores in i poke threw the first filter the put another on top and just use a plastic lid with a hole in it over the whole thing? Will this modified version work or am i setting myself up for failure???

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mycoBOB said:

Hmm.....I like what you've done, but I think that soaking the grains and simmering them is a bit excessive.  Just put the water and the grain in a jar and PC them.  Those endospores will not survive an hour at 20 psi.

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see, this is the shit that i usually get from n00bs...... they oughta just shut their mouths and learn instead of trying to be cool like magash!

Alan said:

I couldnt find rye at Whole Foods. What about wheat?

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