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Hypocrisy
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a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion


Upon consideration, I have realized that it is not, in fact, religion to which I object. If all those who claim to practice Christ-worship emulated their Savior, this would be an amazing world to live in, whether you were a Christian or not. What I object to is hypocrisy, which seems to be SOP for the majority of those who proclaim their piety.

The only practicing Christians I have met were those who never announced it. They were loving and honest and happy, and, when asked about their beliefs, claimed no ultimate validity of their particular set, merely that it made them happy.

I must agree with Gandhi on this one:
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
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Who would bother to object to any religion if the practitioners did not attempt to dictate behaviors for others; either by force or condemnation?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Icelander]
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I also find hypocrisy in those who claim to believe in "tough love," when they are really just angry and vindictive.


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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Silversoul]
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Please be more specific.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Please be more specific.


No need. I've made my point already.


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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Silversoul]
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If he doesn't know, you're not going to tell him?  :confused:

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
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Veritas said:
If he doesn't know, you're not going to tell him?  :confused:


Isn't that hypocriticial for someone who believes that they should serve others and not oneself? :tongue:

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: fireworks_god]
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I don't see how much more specific I could be without pointing fingers, which would corrupt my original intention.


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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Silversoul]
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I'm not looking for names, just a concrete somewhat unbiased example.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Icelander]
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Ok. Say someone says this:
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The idea if tough love has some merit. I get down on the words of some folk here but that doesn't mean I hate them. Often I feel the most support I can give them is to confront them with my honest opinions. I always remember that I may be wrong. To me it is not compassionate to support someone who is dysfunctional without confronting the dysfunction directly. And that might even be by ignoring them when they are seeking unhealthy attention.


And then goes on to poke fun at another person, rather than simply ignoring them or trying to help them. I think that's hypocrisy.


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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
I don't see how much more specific I could be without pointing fingers, which would corrupt my original intention.


The original intention of subtly pointing fingers? :smirk:

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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
Silversoul said:
I don't see how much more specific I could be without pointing fingers, which would corrupt my original intention.


The original intention of subtly pointing fingers? :smirk:


My intention was to teach, rather than make a public spectacle of someone.


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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Silversoul]
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I'm in no position to question or make assumptions as to your intentions. I was simply having some fun, mocking the manners of others that do engage in that sort of behavior. :grin:

We all still have our manners of indirectly addressing others personally, our ways of posturing to convey a certain image or identity.... These things are expressed from time to time...

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Peace. :mushroom2:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Silversoul]
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I'd like to add that I think anyone who's honest with themselves will catch themselves being a hypocrite every now and then. I don't want to say it's unavoidable, but almost everyone is a hypocrite at some point. The best you can do is catch yourself doing it and try to avoid it in the future.


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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
The best you can do is catch yourself doing it and try to avoid it in the future.


One should carefully observe one's behavior, and then dedicate oneself to actively transforming their mind to prevent the behavior from reoccuring. One doesn't "try to avoid", one engages in responding to that which will prevent it from occuring again.

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Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Silversoul]
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So you were confronting Icelander with your honest opinion of his actions, but not willing to do so directly?

How do you dintinguish between confronting someone's dysfunction and "poking fun" at them? Are you poking fun at Icelander by indirectly calling him angry, vindictive and hypocritical? Is this action in alignment with your professed beliefs?

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Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measurement ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote (speck) that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and them shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. Matthew 7:1-5


What teaching are you hoping to offer through this method? How do you know for certain that Icelander is angry and vindictive, as opposed to more directly confrontational in his teaching methods? Can you read his mind and discern that his intentions are materially different from yours?

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
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I was hoping to subtly remind him to let go of anger, and not be so quick to judge others. Nothing more.


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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Silversoul]
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And you were exemplifying this lesson by judging him and his intentions?
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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
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I was exemplifying it by trying to help him understand what he was doing.


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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
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If all those who claim to practice Christ-worship emulated their Savior, this would be an amazing world to live in, whether you were a Christian or not.

"The last true Christian was nailed to the cross."

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